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So does Kidd keep his all-star spot?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:02 pm
by Kosta
Anyone have an idea what happens now with Kidd's all-star spot?
I'm going to assume since he won't be playing a game for the Mavs until after all-star break, he'll get to start for the East and keep that spot.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:06 pm
by MagicFan3
If the trade goes through now, he will not be playing in the ASG as he is not in the East anymore and he did not earn any votes in the West. Billups would be selected to move up, and another player, likely Turk or Calderon, would fill his spot.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:11 pm
by GJC
Won't be Turk with the precedent set by Stern with Wallace. Calderon or Allen will be the selection if in fact Kidd is ineligible.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:11 pm
by Kosta
MagicFan3 wrote:If the trade goes through now, he will not be playing in the ASG as he is not in the East anymore and he did not earn any votes in the West. Billups would be selected to move up, and another player, likely Turk or Calderon, would fill his spot.
Can't be Turk, it would definitely have to be another point guard.
I believe out of respect for Kidd that Stern will let him play in that game still. Considering that the trade will have gone down right before all-star break and he wouldn't have played a game in a Mavs uniform yet.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:12 pm
by T-Spot
Calderon starts.
No if, buts, or whoopsydoopsies about that.
Actually no.
Billy starts and either Ray (the Celtics need more than one player in the ASG, I mean if the Pistons have three, how can you not give the Celts at least two now that Garnett is out?) or Turkey man gets called up.
Calderon has a very outside chance, unless they really want a point guard.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:13 pm
by Kosta
GJC wrote:Won't be Turk with the precedent set by Stern with Wallace. Calderon or Allen will be the selection if in fact Kidd is ineligible.
Yeah, one thing for sure is that Billups would start.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:16 pm
by MagicFan3
The league would risk looking really bad if they didn't give Hedo or Calderon a spot for a third time.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:17 pm
by Patterns
MagicFan3 wrote:The league would risk looking really bad if they didn't give Hedo or Calderon a spot for a third time.
No. The League doesn't care because no body knows who those players are besides RealGMers.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:25 pm
by T-Spot
Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
No. The League doesn't care because no body knows who those players are besides RealGMers.
Well, considering Turkey man and Calderon have both won games over the Celtics with three's (Caldy did it old skool, with the foul and Turkey man just flat out made it and did the Turkey dance) I think plenty (sad Celtic fans anyway) know about them.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:31 pm
by triplet1984
Kidd was in the east during the period that fans and coaches voted. He was traded long after the voting peroid ended. Hence, he should stay in the east.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:37 pm
by TheKingOfVa360
Ray Allen will take his spot. Stern has the right to appoint who he wants to take his spot if Kidd doesn't play for the East.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:38 pm
by Duiz
LeBron James can run the point, we don't need another PG.. sorry Caldo, it is Turkgobble-gobble turns for the spotlight.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:40 pm
by MagicFan3
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Ray Allen will take his spot. Stern has the right to appoint who he wants to take his spot if Kidd doesn't play for the East.
Not a chance of Allen getting in over Turk/Calderon.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:46 pm
by Kosta
Duiz wrote:LeBron James can run the point, we don't need another PG.. sorry Caldo, it is Turkgobble-gobble turns for the spotlight.
If we're disregarding positions here, what was the point of the Sheed selection? LeBron can also play PF...
Stern could have easily of selected a more deserving player at the 3 but decided to replace K.G with a less deserving big man.
If he has to replace Kidd, wouldn't it be a double standard to select a player from another position?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:47 pm
by T-Spot
MagicFan3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Not a chance of Allen getting in over Turk/Calderon.
By individual stats you would be right.
But if it was by representation of a teams record, Allen has a fighting chance.
The Celtics are the best team in the NBA and only have one man in.
The Pistons are (2nd or 3rd) in the NBA and have three men in.
Both the Magic and Raps have one player in. Is it right for either to have more men in than the Celtics?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:48 pm
by MagicFan3
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Does Pierce not play for the Celtics any more?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:50 pm
by T-Spot
MagicFan3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Does Pierce not play for the Celtics any more?
That is the Celtics only man in.
Garnett is out with injury.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:52 pm
by TheKingOfVa360
MagicFan3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Not a chance of Allen getting in over Turk/Calderon.
You do know David Stern will be making the pick? Ray Allen will be the choice even if Turk should get the spot.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:55 pm
by rsavaj
But does he become a West All-Star?
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:58 pm
by Kosta
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You do know David Stern will be making the pick? Ray Allen will be the choice even if Turk should get the spot.
Again, if Ray Allen was so high on Stern's replacements selections and we're disregarding positions here, why did he choose Sheed over Ray Allen? If anything, Sheed is a worse selection than Hedo.
Then again, the East is short on big men. I guess it's conceivable to believe Stern won't give a crap if the East doesn't have two point guards. Not like he has standards and cares about being fair.