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Who should replace Kobe in the All-Star game??

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:44 pm
by xstockholmsyndromex
IF Kobe ends up bowing out of the All-Star because of his injured finger, who would you like to see replace him in the All Star Game???

Deron Williams
Baron Davis
Josh Howard
Manu Ginobli
Someone Else

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:45 pm
by King Roosk
Baron Davis

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:46 pm
by gmurray8
Bdiddy.. this shouldn't even be a question.

Then again with Ray Allen's addition in the east you can never underestimate the stupidity of the coaches. Celtics would be better with Delonte + Yi + Wally with the way Allen has played this year..

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:47 pm
by MagicFan3
Baron Davis should've been in the first time. If there is any justice, Stern won't **** up a third time (passing up Hedo twice in the East).

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:47 pm
by hermes
hedo......wait wrong league
baron

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:59 pm
by xstockholmsyndromex
I think that there is a strong argument for both Baron Davis and Deron Williams...maybe its the Jazz homer in me, but I think Deron Williams is the better player. Their stats are comprable...a few of the differences could be argued because of the team they play for and their style of game.


Deron: 19.1 PPG, .514 FG%, .800 FT%, .407 3PT%, 3.0 REB, 9.7 ASST, 1.2 STL, 0.3 BLK, 3.5 TO, 30 Double Doubles. Team Record: 34-19, 1st place in the NW Division, 3 games out of best record in the West.

Baron: 21.6 PPG, .418 FG%, .744 FT%, .342 3PT%, 4.8 REB, 8.0 ASST, 2.5 STL, 0.5 BLK, 2.75 TO, 13 Double Doubles, Team Record: 32-20, 3rd Place in Pacific Division, 4.5 games out of best record in the West.

Deron scores a little less that Baron, but Deron is the 3rd or 4th option on his team, where Baron is often times #1 or 2. That also is why Deron has the better assist #'s. Deron is obviously the better shooter...just look at those percentages! WOW! Baron is the better defender with the quick hands and steals. The rebounds I dont look too much at. Deron is on a team with Boozer, Okur, Millsap, etc... He doesnt need to do much rebounding, the same cant be said for Baron. I think in the end their differences even them out and you have to look at what they have helped their teams accomplish.....Deron has the upper hand on that. I think Deron deserves the slot.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:01 pm
by Patterns
Baron Davis. It isn't close.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:04 pm
by That Nicka
Baron Davis no doubt

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:04 pm
by TheKingOfVa360
Baron Davis, it's not even close. My second up is Manu!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:10 pm
by kdot99
Baron Davis

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:16 pm
by xstockholmsyndromex
Wow, there is a lot of love for Baron so far, but no one is explaining WHY he deserves it over the other players. Explain to me why he deserves is over the likes of Deron Williams, Manu, etc.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:18 pm
by TheKingOfVa360
xstockholmsyndromex wrote:Wow, there is a lot of love for Baron so far, but no one is explaining WHY he deserves it over the other players. Explain to me why he deserves is over the likes of Deron Williams, Manu, etc.




no need to explain it's obvious

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:19 pm
by NapoleonII
2.5 steals.

Clutch as hell.

His team's number 1 scoring threat, yet still shooting a decent percentage.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:19 pm
by Diaper Dandy
xstockholmsyndromex wrote:maybe its the Jazz homer in me, but I think Deron Williams is the better player.


Don't worry, it is.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:21 pm
by MagicFan3
xstockholmsyndromex wrote:Wow, there is a lot of love for Baron so far, but no one is explaining WHY he deserves it over the other players. Explain to me why he deserves is over the likes of Deron Williams, Manu, etc.


His stats + his team's record?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:28 pm
by xstockholmsyndromex
MagicFan3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



His stats + his team's record?


Well, seeing his stats and Deron's stats are extremely close...he leads in some catergories, Deron leads in others....., and the Jazz have the better record, thats not a very good argument for Davis.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:28 pm
by Liqourish
Baron Davis, imo, was the only snub this year but the league has the option to fix that error if Kobe sits out.

Baron Davis is on a playoff team (the only western playoff team without a all-star) and since their 0-5 start has gone 32-15 the rest of the season while Baron puts up 22 pts 5 rebs 8 asts and 2.5 stls.

Name me another player putting up better stats on a playoff team with no other all-stars on their team?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:46 pm
by xstockholmsyndromex
Liqourish wrote:Baron Davis, imo, was the only snub this year but the league has the option to fix that error if Kobe sits out.

Baron Davis is on a playoff team (the only western playoff team without a all-star) and since their 0-5 start has gone 32-15 the rest of the season while Baron puts up 22 pts 5 rebs 8 asts and 2.5 stls.

Name me another player putting up better stats on a playoff team with no other all-stars on their team?


If Davis does get the nod, I think what you said will have A LOT to do with it...the only Western Conference playoff-caliber team without an All-Star on it.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:53 pm
by shobe_81
Kobe's a Panzy!

On the other hand, he wants to play with Shaq next yr in the All-Star game :wink:

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:54 pm
by Sedale Threatt
xstockholmsyndromex wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Well, seeing his stats and Deron's stats are extremely close...he leads in some catergories, Deron leads in others....., and the Jazz have the better record, thats not a very good argument for Davis.


I'd go with Williams as well.

First of all, both, as well as Manu Ginibili, would have been a better pick than Roy. I really like Roy a lot -- he's got a very bright future -- but that was simply a mistake to pick him over the other three.

Davis is more spectacular, more flamboyant, and undoubtedly a marvelous player.

I just prefer Williams' style; he's so much more consistent and dependable. He's shooting a full TEN percentage points better from the floor while averaging roughly the same amount of points. I'm not sure people really understand what a massive difference this makes over the course of a season in terms of efficiency.