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Who is the biggest anti tim duncan?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:46 pm
by Sanjan
Who makes everyone around them worse?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:47 pm
by St.Nick
Knicks?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:54 pm
by T.Duncan21
Antoine Walker lol
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:54 pm
by T.Duncan21
St.Nick wrote:Knicks?
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:59 pm
by Magz50
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:04 pm
by legacyinthemakin89c
In terms of same type of play with the same type of production with a basically negative impact on his team:
Zach Randolph
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:09 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
Kwame
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:26 pm
by Jemini80
legacyinthemakin89c wrote:In terms of same type of play with the same type of production with a basically negative impact on his team:
Zach Randolph
wrong...but thanks for helping the vicious cycle deflect blame off the fact that the whole knicks roster including David Lee is mostly below average players who wouldn't see minutes on other teams.
Randolph is the only decent player on the KNicks.
the answer is probably eddy Curry, Arenas, Marbury, Ben Gordon, Iverson, Bosh, and Jamison.
seriously, how does Bosh get a free pass for all the stuff he can't do even though he is a "franchise player". I mean I loved Bosh, but this year he just hasn't continued to grow and just settles for outside shots, won't go in the paint, and barely has more apg than Randolph. Bosh is becoming the Vince Carter of PFs.
oh two more
Vince Carter and TMac.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:36 pm
by theTHIEF
Carlos Arroyo
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:38 pm
by TAI8
Arenas has no business in this discussion. He is the sole reason why the Wizards are always one of the elite offensive teams in the league. He enabled Jamison ('05) and Butler ('07) to fully develop and thrive off of the fast-paced Wizards offense and into All-Stars. I won't even get into Bosh, Jamison, Carter, and McGrady.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:06 pm
by Rooster
^What, he allowed Butler to be an All-Star by not being in the lineup?
Cut Bosh some slack, he's not supposed to be the next Duncan.
I'd nominate Shareef for this, although he's irrelevant now. His utter lack of defence was just horrifying. I remember seeing Atlanta games a few years ago and Theo would basically be playing five-on-one at times.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:17 pm
by The_Pope
Ricky Davis.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:19 pm
by T-Spot
Jemini80 wrote:seriously, how does Bosh get a free pass for all the stuff he can't do even though he is a "franchise player". I mean I loved Bosh, but this year he just hasn't continued to grow and just settles for outside shots, won't go in the paint, and barely has more apg than Randolph. Bosh is becoming the Vince Carter of PFs.
You obviously
1. Never loved Bosh
2. Don't watch him.
Since he has healed (yes he was playing through a bum knee for most of the start of the season) and has been living in paint and eating rim since the he healed up, in the New Year. He's dropped 35-43's on the Blazers, Suns, Knicks, Hornets ect. I think since the Ney Year started he has only been limited in attacking the rim in two games. Detroit and San Antonio, and he wasn't getting calls in the Detroit game, so it wasn't like he was not trying. Hey, if the jumper is wet, thats a bonus and he should use it as a weapon.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:22 pm
by TAI8
Rooster wrote:^What, he allowed Butler to be an All-Star by not being in the lineup?
I put the year in parentheses to denote the All-Star berth.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:24 pm
by D-Wade
The_Pope wrote:Ricky Davis.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:25 pm
by magic#32
I'd go for Randolph, Portland was prolly the worst team in the league last year and now they're a playoff team, he's the 20/10 with the less impact in his team ever.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:31 pm
by _venom_
Jemini80 wrote:seriously, how does Bosh get a free pass for all the stuff he can't do even though he is a "franchise player". I mean I loved Bosh, but this year he just hasn't continued to grow and just settles for outside shots, won't go in the paint, and barely has more apg than Randolph. Bosh is becoming the Vince Carter of PFs.
Percentage of shots that are jumpshots:
Duncan 55%
Garnett 75%
Boozer 56%
Stoudemire 51%
West 62%
Nowitzki 81%
Jamison 71%
Bosh 57%
thanks for coming out
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:32 pm
by Rocky5000
Mark Blount.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:36 pm
by tsherkin
Jemini80 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
seriously, how does Bosh get a free pass for all the stuff he can't do even though he is a "franchise player". I mean I loved Bosh, but this year he just hasn't continued to grow and just settles for outside shots, won't go in the paint, and barely has more apg than Randolph. Bosh is becoming the Vince Carter of PFs.
Blatantly untrue; nevermind the "percentages of shots taken as jumpers" stat someone else dutifully pointed, don't forget that Bosh touch-posts on the right block into the face-up a lot and drives in from 10 feet and that the most common sight with him is not a jumper but a face-up iso from the left wing at about 20 feet into a slashing move to the hoop.
There's a REASON he averages 8.7 FTA/g and has a DrawF over 20%. I may not be a huge fan of Bosh as the #1 option on a team but you clearly don't know anything about him as a player, he's far superior to what you seem to believe.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:15 pm
by Chubby Chaser
K W A M E B R O W N