Lebron's a good leader?

Derekman · Post #1 » by **Derekman** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:37 pm

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... cleveland/

He basically throws his teammates under the bus, saying their not good enough. If this were Shaq or Kobe, this would be getting WAY MORE buz, but why does Lebron get a free pass?

technologic · Post #2 » by **technologic** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:38 pm

Shaming your organization is actually considered good leadership in the NBA.

Post #3 » by **UGA Hayes** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:42 pm

Thats a Sam Smith article. He pretty clearly twists what LeBron saids to make it sound worse than it is. Those comments he made about the other team in the playoffs are about how his team is being disrespected not how he doesn't have help the way Smith frames. IMO that article is grounds for firing a writer.

C'mon Cavs · Post #4 » by **C'mon Cavs** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:44 pm

He didnt disrespect any of his teammates.

The media is just itching to get LeBron to say something bad about Cleveland so they can start all their "LeBron to the Knicks" articles.

He was being sarcastic when he said that they werent very good. He was mocking the media, who always tries to downplay the Cavs achievements.

Post #5 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:54 pm

That is about the worst kind of misuse of someones words. During the interview LeBron never said his teammates were not good enough. He actually was pointing out that other people had been saying that. Most importantly he says that he'd like them to make a move "if" it made the team better.

Jules Winnfield · Post #6 » by **Jules Winnfield** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:54 pm

Lebron is a fantastic leader and he simply said he wants the team to get better. I think Lebron is doing what any superstar would do. You have a shot to get better before the deadline and get some more help, you gotta go ahead and do it.

FlightNo.23 · Post #7 » by **FlightNo.23** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:57 pm

Good Lord Sam Smith is uninformed. In his article he says Anderson Varejao is among one of the players that comes up most often during trade talks.

Anderson Varejao can't be traded before the deadline :banghead:

Post #8 » by **Flash3** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:37 pm

It's Sam Smith.

So, that means.........NOTHING!

RJM · Post #9 » by **RJM** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:42 pm

Because his team does suck outside of Z and Boobie.

CzBoobie · Post #10 » by **CzBoobie** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:44 pm

What the hell is this? This has to be the most moronic article with the most moronic title I've read in some time...

Derekman wrote:http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50921/20080218/lebron_is_frustrated_in_cleveland/

He basically throws his teammates under the bus, saying their not good enough. If this were Shaq or Kobe, this would be getting WAY MORE buz, but why does Lebron get a free pass?

Dude, have you even READ the article or you are just one of those 'tards from Raptors board who just hate on LeBron for no obvious reason these days?

Texas Longhorns · Post #11 » by **Texas Longhorns** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:46 pm

LeBron is trying to pull a Kobe. What Kobe did in the summer time made the Lakers a contender this season, now LeBron is trying to do the same so he can get the Cavs front office to do something by the end of the trade deadline.

MagicFan3 · Post #12 » by **MagicFan3** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:25 pm

At least he realizes that that Cavs team last year did not deserve to be in the Finals.

triplet1984 · Post #13 » by **triplet1984** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:27 pm

um, he's just listing off all the things his detractors said about the last playoff run. not that he believes that himself.

C'mon Cavs · Post #14 » by **C'mon Cavs** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:44 pm

MagicFan3 wrote:At least he realizes that that Cavs team last year did not deserve to be in the Finals.

The Cavs deserved to be in the Finals...they just werent good enough to win them.

That would be like if the Magic made it to the finals this year and got swept by S.A. Would the Magic not deserve to be in the Finals...yeah they would, since they won the East.

Of course the Magic have no chance of making it to the Finals anyway since the Cavs Pistons or Celtics will beat them.

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #15 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:09 pm

Texas Longhorns wrote:LeBron is trying to pull a Kobe. What Kobe did in the summer time made the Lakers a contender this season, now LeBron is trying to do the same so he can get the Cavs front office to do something by the end of the trade deadline.

How do you get what Kobe said: "I want to be traded"

From what LeBron said: "Everyone thinks we were lucky to win, but we'll show them"

They aren't even talking about the same thing. Kobe's talking about his team not being good enough and LeBron's saying his team is good enough and that once they get healthy they'll win the East again.

Joel Embust · Post #16 » by **Joel Embust** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:15 pm

He should tell FO to play SHANNON BROWN.

Hoops Pimp · Post #17 » by **Hoops Pimp** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:28 pm

If you want change you have to complain. Pierce, KG, Kidd, Kobe, Shaq, Marion, Carter, Alonzo, T-Mac and others have all complained on some level about their situations and all have gotten what they wanted.

This is how it goes.

The Hoops Pimp Guide to How to Complain and Get What You Want in the NBA

1) First you say the team needs to get better.
2) Then you start to complain publicy about how the team is not good enough.
3) Then you say you do not want to be traded but just want the team to make improvements.
4) Then when asked if you want to be traded you deny it and say whatever happens happens I'm just going to keep playing.
5) If not traded at that point then you request a trade either in public or behind closed doors.
6) When approached about trade rumors you say you are happy where you are and want to stay but this is a business.
7) Next you are in a new uniform thanking the old team for how good they have been to you.

LeBron is still only on step 2 but looks like he is headed toward step 3.

0HeadAche0 · Post #18 » by **0HeadAche0** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:41 pm

Would I go to war with Lebron? No
Would I go with Kobe? Yes

Kobe just has something that says, I'm going to get it done for you and put you on my back. Lebron kind of gives me the image, "if you go to war with me i'll tell you a joke". Even though LeBron isnt as half as funny as he thinks he is.

Sofa King · Post #19 » by **Sofa King** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:47 pm

Texas Longhorns wrote:LeBron is trying to pull a Kobe. What Kobe did in the summer time made the Lakers a contender this season, now LeBron is trying to do the same so he can get the Cavs front office to do something by the end of the trade deadline.

Lebron is threatening to leave the Cavs? He wants to be traded?

Hey, it worked for Kobe and Pierce. :lol:

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #20 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:01 pm

0HeadAche0 wrote:Would I go to war with Lebron? No
Would I go with Kobe? Yes

Kobe just has something that says, I'm going to get it done for you and put you on my back. Lebron kind of gives me the image, "if you go to war with me i'll tell you a joke". Even though LeBron isnt as half as funny as he thinks he is.

Of course Kobe has something, he's called Shaq. He won Kobe 3 titles.