New Stats You'd Like To See on The Statsheet

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Post#1 » by realball » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:34 pm

I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I was thinking and I figured that some statistics that are never on boxscores could be useful. I bet a bunch of these will be on 82games.com already, but I'd say it would be neat to have statistics for Charges Taken, and Picks Set.

Another one would be Incomplete Assists...So say you make the perfect pass, but the guy misses the jumper, or the guy gets fouled, you won't get an assist, but instead you'll be rewarded with an "IA". This stat can only go for passes that result in a shot. It's useful because the passer gets some recognition for setting his teammates up, and not penalized because his team is just missing shots.

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Post#2 » by NDaATL » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:41 pm

# of charges taken should definitely be given.

I would also like to see the person who causes the steal to get credit for it. Many times a player just picks up a deflected ball and gets credit for the steal.
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Post#3 » by tkb » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:42 pm

Deflections for sure
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Post#4 » by Taiwan Killa » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:44 pm

I'd like Hockey Assists.

A pass that leads to an assist. This would help out superstars like Kobe and Nash who break down the defense on dribble penetration.
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Post#5 » by theTHIEF » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:45 pm

Flops...
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Post#6 » by carrottop12 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:55 pm

Star treatment calls

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Post#7 » by MagicFan3 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:56 pm

Taiwan Killa wrote:I'd like Hockey Assists.

A pass that leads to an assist. This would help out superstars like Kobe and Nash who break down the defense on dribble penetration.


Same here.
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Post#8 » by miller31time » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:58 pm

It'll never happen, but I'd like them to throw away fg% and completely replace it with either eFG% or TS% (or both).
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Post#9 » by Philly Fresh » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:12 am

Why throw out FG%?
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Post#10 » by Andrew Bynasty » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:14 am

Definitly the hockey assists. Im sure this applies to a lot of players, but Kobe misses out on about 5-6 assists per game because of either easy misses by teammates, fouls, or the guy makes another pass that leads to an open dunk.
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Post#11 » by Walt Cronkite » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:15 am

"And one" fouls allowed
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Post#12 » by dacher » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:16 am

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Post#13 » by Optimism Prime » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:38 am

Agree with deflections--that was the first one that came to mind. Also agree with hockey assists and charges taken.
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Post#14 » by cb4_89 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:43 am

hockey assists should be counted as a seperate category thats not included with primary assists.

You cant just change stuff like this.
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Post#15 » by b0na f1de » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:49 am

fouls drawn
deflections
hockey assists
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Post#16 » by Mr. Savage » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:53 am

Philly Fresh wrote:Why throw out FG%?


Think about it.

2 of 6 three pointers made = 6 points on 6 shots = 33.3 % FG

3 of 6 two pointers made = 6 points on 6 shots = 50 % FG


There is the flaw. Both examples have the same scoring efficiency, even though FG% would indicate otherwise.
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Post#17 » by Ballings7 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:55 am

Screens/picks successfully made leading to a made shot. Like an assist.
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Post#18 » by Optimism Prime » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:56 am

cb4_89 wrote:hockey assists should be counted as a seperate category thats not included with primary assists.

You cant just change stuff like this.


I think most people assumed that they'd be two separate stats, not combined into one...
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Post#19 » by get crispy » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:58 am

[quote="Mr. Savage"][/quote]

So like a points per shot sorta thing? I like it.

Ive seen points per possesion somewhere before, maybe 82games, I wouldnt mind seeing that in the team stats.
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Post#20 » by T-Spot » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:00 am

I don't like the idea of hockey assists, or crediting assists even though a shot is missed or the shooter is fouled.

Any stat line with 10 assists turns from "Awesome stat line" to "Mediocre".
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