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In your opinion what recent contract has been the most damaging to the team that handed it out?

I would suggest Ben Wallace's? Signing him took the Bulls from a team with unlimited upside, a ton of financial flexibility and loads of youth and forced them to trade for Larry Hughes. If his contract forces them to give up Deng or Gordon, that is even worse.

Although, he was an integral part of their championship run, the Heat signing Antoine Walker definitely is a reason that they are where they are right now.

Brad Miller, maybe?

Darius Miles?

There are tons out there. Which do you think are the worst?

KMart

Ben Wallace
K-Mart
Larry Hughes

Darius Miles is a productive player.

grant hill

Rashard Lewis.. Might not be horrific yet but they will regret not being able to put a legit option next to Dwight Howard.. really with Hedo doing so well

Smush Parker. His negatives outwieghed the savings on his low cost contract.

I'd have to look at the contracts but off the top of my head I feel as though it would have to be a contract McHale gave out that killed any chance of building a winner around KG.

magicfan4life05 wrote:grant hill

More than 5 years ago, but that's the most damaging one I can think of.

KMart's contract hasn't kept the Nuggs from having a huge payroll. Same with Darius Miles. And it wasn't just Larry Hughes' contract that kep the Cavs from adding players, it was that Ferry signed everyone else to above market deals also. And while contracts like Brian Cardinal's and Adonal Foyle's are bad and have hampered those respective franchises, I wouldn't say they're the most damaging.

While it was kind of a given at the time that the Bulls were signign Ben to a bad contract, part of the idea was that it was really hurting a division rival too. IMO the biggest issue with the Big Ben contract wasn't the on court production or that he got turned into Larry Hughes, it was that they lost Tyson Chandler because of it.


But 4 years from now, Cklbmk's got the answer to the question. As bad as the Rashard Lewis contract looks now, it'll look 10 times more ridiculous in a few years.

Ben Wallace, easily. Not all by himself (Chandler not producing helped), but in the end, he's the guy.

Last 8 years: Allan Houston easily.

NetsForce wrote:I'd have to look at the contracts but off the top of my head I feel as though it would have to be a contract McHale gave out that killed any chance of building a winner around KG.

the best candidates would be marko jaric or troy hudson, but neither of them are so completely damaging ala brian grant. I'd personally choose rashard lewis, seriously who would want a 35 year old rashard lewis at 20 mil?

technologic wrote:Last 8 years: Allan Houston easily.

But his contract never stopped the Knicks from spending and spending and spending, so I don't think it was really that damaging.

What about Ricky Davis and Shareef Abdur-Raheem? Just having those contracts seemed to be damaging for most all of their respective teams.

Boris effing Diaw deserves an honorable mention.

Ben Wallace

Before this season.....Murphy and Dunleavy for the Warriors. Now.....Dunleavy ( at least ) is earning his paycheck...and Murphy is playing somewhat decent ( as of late ).

Unfortunately, despite their production.....both are anchoing our Salary Cap until the 2010-2011 season.

Special thanks goes to Mullin for giving them so much in the first place...and special thanks to Bird for taking on Murphy's contract ( I don't mind Dunleavy's contract given his production ).

Don't get me wrong...I don't mind both of them as players....I just hate their contract.

For the Knicks it has been Mcdyess's contract that expired in 04

Granted this is not conventional but follow this

McDyess > Marbury and loss of two firsts and Camby

kg in boston too, i mean hes 32? and he just signed a 5 year extension. if kg really wanted to win he would have taken a paycut. with kg rayray pierce there, they wont be able to add help for a long time.

Rashard Lewis. Orlando didn't make a move with its expiring deals and now they'll never have the opportunity to build around the guy who is blossoming into the best big in the NBA right before our eyes.

lukeridenour wrote:kg in boston too, i mean hes 32? and he just signed a 5 year extension. if kg really wanted to win he would have taken a paycut. with kg rayray pierce there, they wont be able to add help for a long time.

yeah, cuz no player will take slightly less to play with them, sure. just like posey took less right after we had this burdensome payroll

and my vote for this thread is Dalembert

Ben Wallace hands down. He's a shade better than Kwame Brown, but gets paid a lot more.