Incentive to not hold the NBA's worst record?

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Do you think a rule whereby the team with the worst record in the league forfeits their MLE would be a good idea?

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Incentive to not hold the NBA's worst record? 

Post#1 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 2:53 am

With all the tanking that we've seen from a handful of NBA teams every year, is it time for the NBA to install some form of handicap for those finishing with the worst record?

I'm not considering anything dramatic but just enough to at least force teams to fight though their troubles and at least provide the effort & energy that any team would expect at the start of the year. I'm watching the Raptors blowout of the Heat and Miami's body language is just awful, they passed on this game 2 mins after halftime.

So would a forfeit of losing your MLE be enough to at least give the NBA's worst teams a reason to compete on a nightly basis?
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Post#2 » by Mykhyn » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:00 am

Can't give the worst team less means to improve.
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Post#3 » by ljp24 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:00 am

Los Manos wrote:With all the tanking that we've seen from a handful of NBA teams every year, is it time for the NBA to install some form of handicap for those finishing with the worst record?

I'm not considering anything dramatic but just enough to at least force teams to fight though their troubles and at least provide the effort & energy that any team would expect at the start of the year. I'm watching the Raptors blowout of the Heat and Miami's body language is just awful, they passed on this game 2 mins after halftime.

So would a forfeit of losing your MLE be enough to at least give the NBA's worst teams a reason to compete on a nightly basis?


Every league is going to have bad teams. Jeez, you people act like awful teams are the spawn of the devil.
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Re: Incentive to not hold the NBA's worst record? 

Post#4 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:05 am

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Every league is going to have bad teams. Jeez, you people act like awful teams are the spawn of the devil.


They are! Any sports fan outside North America would be able to realise this. In any other sports league around the globe, you can expect the teams with the worst records towards the end of the year to still be fighting as there is too much to lose by being relegated. Relegation will never be a part of NA sports but there still needs to be a reason to go out and give your all.
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Post#5 » by Number34 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:19 am

The heat are tanking, they just really really suck. If pat was out to tank he would have forced wade and haslem to play a lot less mins.
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Post#6 » by Promezclan » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:34 am

Los Manos wrote:With all the tanking that we've seen from a handful of NBA teams every year, is it time for the NBA to install some form of handicap for those finishing with the worst record?

I'm not considering anything dramatic but just enough to at least force teams to fight though their troubles and at least provide the effort & energy that any team would expect at the start of the year. I'm watching the Raptors blowout of the Heat and Miami's body language is just awful, they passed on this game 2 mins after halftime.

So would a forfeit of losing your MLE be enough to at least give the NBA's worst teams a reason to compete on a nightly basis?

How about forfeiting their first-round draft pick?
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Post#7 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:35 am

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How about forfeiting their first-round draft pick?


That is too much. There just needs to be enough incentive for a coach and GM to encourage maximum effort to close out a season.
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Post#8 » by Angry Jimmy » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:06 am

How about a financial incentive, paid out to the teams incrementally based on order of finish.
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Post#9 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:10 am

TTucker>BGordon wrote:How about a financial incentive, paid out to the teams incrementally based on order of finish.


hhmmm that would still negate the parity of the NA sports leagues which I really wouldn't want to be effected. A move like that would allow the best teams in the league to go into the luxury tax using the money they would recieve, which doesn't help anybody.
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Post#10 » by 5DOM » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:13 am

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Post#11 » by Flash3 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:17 am

Promezclan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


How about forfeiting their first-round draft pick?
And how do you expect that team to get any better?
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Post#12 » by streetp0et » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:21 am

Los Manos wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That is too much. There just needs to be enough incentive for a coach and GM to encourage maximum effort to close out a season.

if that happen, and every players/coach/gm perform to their max effort, there would still be a team with the worst record. do you still want to penalize them then?
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Post#13 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:22 am

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if that happen, and every players/coach/gm perform to their max effort, there would still be a team with the worst record. do you still want to penalize them then?


Yes and there is nothing wrong with that. It happens to sports teams the world over.
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Post#14 » by Flash3 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:26 am

The whole part of giving the 'worst' team the best pick is so they can improve and get better; if you penalize them, how in the world are they going to improve?
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Post#15 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:30 am

Flash3 wrote:The whole part of giving the 'worst' team the best pick is so they can improve and get better; if you penalize them, how in the world are they going to improve?


Because draft picks are far more valuable than the MLE for the worst team in the league to remain competitive and actually progress. By losing the right to the MLE however would at least mean that coaching staff & management would push to not be in that last place and if anything would add an extra competitive element to the league that is sorely lacking. I'd like to see the cellar dwellers pushing themselves a little bit more.
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Post#16 » by JES12 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:30 am

LOL at Miami fans defending this topic.
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Post#17 » by One of Shemps Kids » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:32 am

I think the worst team in the league should be guaranteed the 2nd pick in the draft, with no chance at ALL of getting the first pick (or any pick lower than the 2nd).
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Post#18 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:32 am

JES12 wrote:LOL at Miami fans defending this topic.


They were truly awful tonight. 2 all-stars, a hall of fame head coach and the raptors who were struggling through maybe their worst week of the season just absolutely handed it to them. How is that good for the league?
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Post#19 » by Number34 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:32 am

JES12 wrote:LOL at Miami fans defending this topic.


Why wouldn't we?
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Post#20 » by Los Manos » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:35 am

One of Shemps Kids wrote:I think the worst team in the league should be guaranteed the 2nd pick in the draft, with no chance at ALL of getting the first pick (or any pick lower than the 2nd).


That's not a bad idea at all. I'm just looking for a sensible solution that won't destroy the parity of the league while at least mainintaining its credibility at this time of the year.

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