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Dallas 2-11 against winning teams since trade
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:38 pm
by Balls
The Dallas Mavericks are 0-7 against winning teams since trading for Jason Kidd!
Johnny Luden article on the topic:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns
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edit2: 0-9
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:41 pm
by magicfan4life05
the little general is on the hot seat
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:48 pm
by carrottop12
This is great.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:52 pm
by joe.linnen
I was thinking with time they would get better but that hasn't happen yet, maybe nedxt year. I must say Eric has played better since J-Kidd came to dallas. I guess its because he has somebody to pass him the ball.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:53 pm
by J-Mezzy
A lot of those games were early when the trade occurred. They have gotten better as of late, there's no shame in losing to the Celtics
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:03 pm
by superLuigi21
new jersey thanks dallas for devin harris
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:06 pm
by JaeRell
tell avery to change up offensive plays in the half court to accommodate kidd's strengths instead of running iso after iso after iso after iso...i mean...why get kidd?
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:07 pm
by NetsForce
The Mavericks second unit is horrendous...
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:41 pm
by CITYOFANGELSX3
J-Mezzy wrote:A lot of those games were early when the trade occurred. They have gotten better as of late, there's no shame in losing to the Celtics
Or the lakers...
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:45 pm
by Serpo
Kidd's problem in New Jersey was he had to take more scoring responsibilities then he's able to handle at this stage of his career .
Somehow thats also his problem in Dallas , for some reason Dirks their only 100% reliable scorer . Some of Dallas rotation players shoot even worse then Kidd does this this season .
Add that to the fact Avery's not utilizing Kidd's talents correctly you have a big problem .
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:46 pm
by conleyorbust
JaeRell wrote:tell avery to change up offensive plays in the half court to accommodate kidd's strengths instead of running iso after iso after iso after iso...i mean...why get kidd?
Why trade for a player who makes you change your very successful style? On talent and depth alone Dallas was good enough before the Kidd trade. They got scared because they were underperforming and got Kidd because he's "mentally tough" enough in the late game situations - ironically Kidd is a late game liability these days.
I see coaches blamed for this sort of thing too often but the fact of the matter is that coaches have strengths just like players. Kidd's strengths as a player and Johnson's strengths as a coach don't jive. The GM shoulda seen this coming.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:08 pm
by Rooster
As someone who endorsed the trade for Dallas, I didn't see the bench imploding like this. Kidd himself seems to have been playing well, Dirk's been playing well, Damp's been playing well... you'd think there'd be enoguh guys for Johnson to throw together a bench but that doesn't seem to be the case.
They can restock this summer. Worst case, the trade dumped Harris's contract which is a plus, although it could've been done for cheaper imo.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:23 pm
by semi-sentient
Dallas needs a new coach, preferably one that doesn't have 30,000 teeth.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:26 pm
by Flash3
semi-sentient wrote:Dallas needs a new coach, preferably one that doesn't have 30,000 teeth.
And, one that can make reasonable in-game adjustments....
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:27 pm
by semi-sentient
OT: Anyone ever seen those "Now Hiring" posters that they put up at Exxon? Does the dude in the photo not look like Avery?
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:28 pm
by semi-sentient
Flash3 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
And, one that can make reasonable in-game adjustments....
Yeah, that too.
Isn't Larry Brown available? I bet his coaching would get the Mavs to the next level. I still have nightmares about LB out-coaching PJ in the 04 Finals.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:33 pm
by Rand10
The bench sucks because Avery plays the whole 2nd unit together. I mean, does this team look like it's going to have any success? That's a jump shot happy, no defense (except George) group.
Lue
Terry
George
Bass
Allen
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:37 pm
by Nebroc
I don't think it's reason to panic because with most of the winning teams they have to the games to the wire.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:22 pm
by JordansBulls
I am not sure it is so much Kidd's fault as it is in losing the defensive presence of Diop.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:31 pm
by hermes
thats not good