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Is it possible that there are nine 50 win teams in the West?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:45 pm
by G35
Team records right now


Spurs 50-23
Hornets 49-22
Lakers 49-24
Suns 49-24
Houston 49-23
Utah 48-25
Dallas 45-27
Denver 45-28
Warriors 44-28


I think we can say the top 6 teams will get to 50. Can Dallas, Denver and GS get to 50 is the question.

Dallas has 10 games to get 5 wins.

@ GS Loss
@ Clips Win
vs GS Tossup game
@ LAL Tossup game depending on Lakers injuries/Dirk coming back
@ Phx Loss
vs Sea Win
vs Utah Loss
@ Por Win
@ Sea Win
vs NO Tossup game. Might need to win just to get in. More incentive for Dallas than Hornets


Golden State 10 games to get 6 wins

vs Dallas Win
@ SA Loss
@ Dallas Tossup game/Depends on Dirk
@ Mem Win
@ NO Loss
vs Sac Win
vs Den Win
vs LAC Win
@ Pho Loss
vs Sea Win


Denver has 9 games to get 5 wins

@ Phx Loss
vs Phx Win
vs Sac Win
@ Sea Win
@ LAC Win
@ GS Loss
@ Utah Loss
vs Hou Win
vs Mem Win


To me it looks like it's going to come down between Dallas and Golden State. Those 2 games between Dallas/GS are going to be huge on who gets in the playoff's. Dirk needs to come back this week for Dallas to have any chance.

I think there will be a team that wins 50 games and doesn't make the playoff's and I think it will be Dallas......

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:09 pm
by SmoothKobra
I don't see Dallas making it..

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:23 pm
by DubOverdose
<- A Dallas fan who sees us missing the playoffs. If Dirk comes back soon (now) and we have guy stepping up, then we will make it...but it'll be tough. At least we get a lottery pick instead of giving it to the nets.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:45 pm
by conleyorbust
First off, your responses to a question are true or false which doesn't actually make any sense.

Second, only the Nuggets are playing real above .500 ball right now and all three would have to to make it which is unlikely anyway.

A real complicating factor is that Dallas and GSW play eachother twice from here on out and don't have cupcake schedules beyond that. If one of them takes the series, you can put your money down that the other won't win 50 games this series, if they split than neither team is out of it but neither is particularly likely so I'd still say no.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:08 pm
by Dtown84
Depends on when Dirk gets back I think.

At the very least 8 teams will get 50 wins.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:42 pm
by JES12
I love how the OP is chalking up tonights's game as a loss when the only real advantage the Warrios had was that Don Nelson knew how to defend Dirk. News flash.....Dirk's not playing tonight....Don don't know how to defend Kidd....Dallas has beat them twice already this year.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:14 pm
by G35
JES12 wrote:I love how the OP is chalking up tonights's game as a loss when the only real advantage the Warrios had was that Don Nelson knew how to defend Dirk. News flash.....Dirk's not playing tonight....Don don't know how to defend Kidd....Dallas has beat them twice already this year.


You know you are contradicting yourself.

First you say that the Warriors only advantage was defending Dirk and now he's not playing tonight. Then you say Dallas has already beaten them twice....with Dirk.

Who worries about defending Kidd?

Anyway this is GS' last home game before they go out on the road for 4 straight road games against the Spurs, Mavs, Grizz and Hornets. This is a must win game for them.....

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:17 pm
by manchambo
JES12 wrote:I love how the OP is chalking up tonights's game as a loss when the only real advantage the Warrios had was that Don Nelson knew how to defend Dirk. News flash.....Dirk's not playing tonight....Don don't know how to defend Kidd....Dallas has beat them twice already this year.



I don't think anyone outside Dallas is going to be picking the Mavs for this game. Dallas just hasn't been very good lately and the Warriors have.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:22 pm
by JES12
G35 wrote:You know you are contradicting yourself.
No I'm not. Brandon Bass beat you. Brandon Bass could not be defended by Nelson. Brandon Bass is dressing tonight.

Saying we beat you twice"....with Dirk" is your ASSumtion that that was what I was thinking, in which you are flat out WRONG!

G35 wrote:Anyway this is GS' last home game before they go out on the road for 4 straight road games against the Spurs, Mavs, Grizz and Hornets. This is a must win game for them.....
And it's a must win for the Mavs as well. And we have beaten teams whose best inside guy were as good as Harrington or less since the Kidd trade. It was the teams with good inside presense that we lost to.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:23 pm
by a-rod
The west looks awesome, and really freaking scary, the east on the other hand......

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:32 pm
by Tom Baker
SmoothKing32 wrote:I don't see Dallas making it..


Neither do I.

Dallas has 10 games to get 5 wins... without Dirk for at least some of them...
GS has 10 games to get 6 wins, and those two teams play each other twice, starting tonight.

Plus, Denver has 9 games to get 5 wins.

Somebody's going to miss out, and odds favour Dallas to miss out.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:01 am
by Crooked-I
JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And it's a must win for the Mavs as well. And we have beaten teams whose best inside guy were as good as Harrington or less since the Kidd trade. It was the teams with good inside presense that we lost to.


It's pretty reasonable to think the Mavs would loose to GS. It's not a ridiculous idea like your making it out to be. Last I checked you got beat by Denver who doesn't really have an inside presence either(I know your going to say Camby, but he's a 15-18 footer guy).

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:06 am
by G35
JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And it's a must win for the Mavs as well. And we have beaten teams whose best inside guy were as good as Harrington or less since the Kidd trade. It was the teams with good inside presense that we lost to.



First off, I don't know why you are taking it personal because I don't have anything against the Mav's.

2nd I've never met Brandon Bass and he hasn't beaten me at anything.


I wasn't making any assumption about what you are saying. You said the advantage was that Dirk was out. Then you said they beat GS twice already. They did! With Dirk. You don't have to say anything. Thats the facts.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2008010206
Dirk Nowitzki wasn

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:19 am
by TMACFORMVP
It seems like Dallas is the odd-man out at this point, the Warriors have been pretty consistent since getting Jackson back and the Nuggets have been on fire as of late, and missing your best player and the reigning MVP really doesn't help your chances. I still think they could get 50 wins though.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:16 am
by DubOverdose
TMACFORMVP wrote:It seems like Dallas is the odd-man out at this point, the Warriors have been pretty consistent since getting Jackson back and the Nuggets have been on fire as of late, and missing your best player and the reigning MVP really doesn't help your chances. I still think they could get 50 wins though.

I'm not convinced we can get another win, much less the 5 or whatever to make it to 50.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:27 am
by JES12
G35 wrote:2nd I've never met Brandon Bass and he hasn't beaten me at anything.


I wasn't making any assumption about what you are saying. You said the advantage was that Dirk was out. Then you said they beat GS twice already. They did! With Dirk. You don't have to say anything. Thats the facts.
Okay, so we lost. Brandon Bass and Josh Howard wasn't quite enough. But Dirk was not the reason why we lost...it was because we didn't have Devin Harris to keep Ellis to his 12 pt avg (he had 30/5/4 today). Once again...no copntradiction in my statement. Just because it don't click in your head, does not mean there was a contradiction.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:31 pm
by G35
JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Okay, so we lost. Brandon Bass and Josh Howard wasn't quite enough. But Dirk was not the reason why we lost...it was because we didn't have Devin Harris to keep Ellis to his 12 pt avg (he had 30/5/4 today). Once again...no copntradiction in my statement. Just because it don't click in your head, does not mean there was a contradiction.


Okay, so do you think the Mavericks are going to get to 50 wins......

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:56 pm
by Scalabrine
ive been saying all season long that the team that doesnt make it will be the team that gets hit with a costly injury at the wrong time and that will decide who makes it and who doesnt, right now it looks like im correct. Dirks injury came at the wrong time, when they werent playing there best ball, and now they are plumeting going 0-10 against teams with +.500 records.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:39 pm
by Alex_De_Large
i hope nowitzki don't comes back in regular season and they don't make the playoffs.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:59 pm
by Reks
JES12 wrote:I love how the OP is chalking up tonights's game as a loss when the only real advantage the Warrios had was that Don Nelson knew how to defend Dirk. News flash.....Dirk's not playing tonight....Don don't know how to defend Kidd....Dallas has beat them twice already this year.


I love how the OP was right