Is your coach getting the most out of your team?

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Is your coach maximizing the development/performance of his players?

Yes; he is one of the best in the league.
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No, but I'd rather keep him than opt for an unknown replacement.
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No, and he should have been fired already.
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Is your coach getting the most out of your team? 

Post#1 » by Schad » Sun Apr 6, 2008 9:42 pm

Anecdotally, it seems that most fans around the league are unhappy with their head coach. Obviously, there are a few notable exceptions...no one is clamoring for Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich to exit stage right. But I'm curious as to the overall breakdown.

Post your team, answer, and an expression of your love/frothing hatred for your coach, if you so desire.
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Post#2 » by DelaneyRudd » Sun Apr 6, 2008 9:44 pm

I don't know. I don't know why the Jazz are under .500 on the road.
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Post#3 » by AdamTheGreek » Sun Apr 6, 2008 9:53 pm

Stan Van Gundy is a god. :bowdown:
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Post#4 » by Bankai » Sun Apr 6, 2008 9:55 pm

Toronto Raptors, "winging it" is only going to get them so far...
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Post#5 » by Basileus777 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:03 pm

No, and Frank should have been fired already.
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Post#6 » by Texas Longhorns » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:18 pm

No, but I'd rather keep him than someone unknown.
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Post#7 » by TheBigThree » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:22 pm

Yes. Gripe about his TO calling, or his sometimes weird rotations, but there can be no doubt Eddie Jordan is getting the most out of what he has right now.
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Post#8 » by JES12 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:24 pm

No as evident by what Avery was able to get out of them last year.
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Post#9 » by BROWN » Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:31 pm

nellie has to get rid of his small ball crap
and develop the good bigs on the bench, (wright,pob,kosta)....
and try to develop the team around monta, seeing he will be the face
of the warrior franchise for a long time *knock on wood*
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Post#10 » by _BBIB_ » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:18 pm

Hawks win in spite of their head coach.

If we had a real coach we'd be at least a 5th seed right now
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Post#11 » by GYBE » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:18 pm

Well...with Doc Rivers, it's hard to say no. But just as much credit should go to the coaching staff he's hired, most notably Thibodeau. He's great at getting effort and intensity out of his roster, but his history of in-game strategies and rotations leave a lot to be desired.

There's no reason to look for another coach. But if he left and Thibodeau took control, I don't think there would be THAT much of a difference.
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Post#12 » by HarlemHeat37 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:19 pm

Popovich is the best in the NBA..
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Post#13 » by dacher » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:21 pm

It takes me a long time to turn against people... but Frank has to go, or at least move back to assistant coaching.
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Post#14 » by High 5 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:22 pm

This would be an interesting poll for each team board and then compiling the results.
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Post#15 » by Harry Palmer » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:30 pm

With these things you basically get 3 categories:

1) The smallest cat, in which the likes of Phil Jackson, Riley and Popovich reside, ie the kind of coach that is so universally respected as to be immune from the normal scapegoat pattern for coaches.

2) The 'hot year' guys, a la Adleman or Scott for this year, who are enjoying a very temporary reprieve from the norm and who will be castigated a la former hot year guys like Frank and JVG in time. This almost never lasts longer than one season.

3) Everyone else.

It's the norm. Teams invest a lot more in players than coaches, and fans follow suit with their emotions. It's so much easier to believe that your team is comprised of All Stars but for the interference of one easily replaceable coach than to consider the fact that the below-your-expectations performance of the team and/or player you root for is actually just a reflection of it's/his talent level.
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Post#16 » by Schad » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:34 pm

High 5 wrote:This would be an interesting poll for each team board and then compiling the results.


Agreed; that's why I was hoping that most people would indicate the team/coach for which they are casting the ballot.

To make my position clear, I'm of the opinion that there are three general skills that one might hope for from a head coach: as a tactician; as a motivator; and as a developer of talent.

There are very few (if any) coaches who really do all three; even many of the best coaches leave the teaching aspect to their assistants. And as with GYBE's example (or with Jackson/Winter), there are many more who rely on their assistants for tactical advice.

My thought is that there are probably 6-7 really good coaches in the league, an equal number of decent ones whose abilities barely cancel out their negatives, followed by a whole bunch of mediocrity (and in tier four, Isiah Thomas).

Unless one's team is at the very top of the heap (like Doc Rivers this year), those decent/mediocre coaches are always going to be on the hot seat...everyone wants one of the top guys, but there are only so many to go around. As a result, teams get into the practice of hiring/firing coaches with little reason beside 'we needed a change', only to bring in an equally mediocre coach.


Edit: thanks Harry, you basically stole my premise while I was typing this out.
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Post#17 » by Derekman » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:41 pm

The 3 raptor plays:

Bosh iso
Point guard create
Pick+pop (it's not even a pick and roll, and teams defended insanely easily by just switching up because most point guards are stronger thqan Bargs and he can't post them up)
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Post#18 » by 5DOM » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:44 pm

Derekman wrote:The 3 raptor plays:

Bosh iso
Point guard and Humps create
Pick+pop (it's not even a pick and roll, and teams defended insanely easily by just switching up because most point guards are stronger thqan Bargs and he can't post them up)


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Post#19 » by gswhoops » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:44 pm

The Warriors board is split between Nellie fanboys and Nellie haters. Personally I think we need someone who will play the young guys and keep a deeper rotation.
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Post#20 » by farzi » Sun Apr 6, 2008 11:45 pm

No, McMillan is a motivator, not a coach
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