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So check this out... Deron Williams came off of a great year, which he ended 3rd in the list for Most Improved Player of the Year, and gained recognition for his amazing improvement. Also led his team to the Western Conference finals, which against the Spurs, and Bruce Bowen as his personal pedophile, he was putting sick numbers. He begins the season putting pretty good numbers but his team falls down to .500, although the Utah Jazz had the most road games of any team until that point.

Then Brandon Roy, in his second year, whose team is just a couple positions up the standings and who was putting slightly higher numbers in rebounds and points per game. He had been part of the feel good story of the NBA and had his team go hot for a 13-0 winning streak.

However he decides to create the iRoy campaign which was a packet of pamphlets and an ipod with sick highlights of Brandon Roy, and great marketing for his case to be part of the All-Star game. This was sent to all coaches. True showmanship.

Anyways, he ends up selected to the All-Star, you can see him in various Nike Commercials, and Deron despite having broken off with CP3 for being flat out the best two Points GUards (And I don't mean just young), he is still snubbed for the second consecutive year which is still a great travesty.

To be quite honest it was ingenious, but was it moral to spread propaganda knowing that there is no fair equality in it? Was it ethical for the league to allow this type of activity? Specially without any regulation?

Note: Let's set the record straight. Those of you who are effing ignorant and think that I am implying that Roy is an effing commie, get your facts straight. Propaganda is a concerted set of message aimed at influecing the opnion or behaviour of large numbers of people.

http://sportsbusinessradio.com/node/1530/

With that in mind, comes a couple more propaganda intents. Chris Paul's follows, and although I do think he does indeed deserve the MVP rather than Kobe for a thousand reasons, I still see it as unethical, as it can take away from many of the achievements that Kobe has accomplished this year, for the modification of his game while still being a catalyzer of a championship calliber team.

Is it moral for an NBA team to do this? Is it ethical for NBA.com to proceed with the hosting of this website without equal representation?

Extract from the myspace.com group.



http://nba.com/hornets/CP3MVP.html

Now comes the lastest, which is Horford and his intent to win Rookie of the Year. Although is it somewhat of a two horse race, we all know what an spectacular year Kevin Durant has had in the lame-duck year for the Sonics. The great levy that holds the flood is the near double-double averaged by Horford, and the fact that the Hawks will be back in the playoffs while the Sonics tanking once more. However again we face the fact that the propaganda is unfiltered and quite unfair specially when challenge big markets vs Small markets.



http://Al4roy.com

My personal opinion is that I see it as kinda dirty, and just like lobbying to NCAA players (Google Carmelo Anthony tickets OJ Mayo) in which it can affect the fairness of the judgement for the achievement and glory of the certain achievements or awards. I do not think they are already, but I think it doesn't help but rather clutter the already flawed process in which these and many other selections are made. To me, lobbying for awards should be prohibited. Can we have some dignity please?

I don't see a problem with it..as long as nobody says anything bad about their opponents in their respective award races, then you should have the right to promote yourself and to campaign for an award..

HarlemHeat37 wrote:I don't see a problem with it..as long as nobody says anything bad about their opponents in their respective award races, then you should have the right to promote yourself and to campaign for an award..

The organization behind seem to be the ones to fuel them, but the player who fueled got awarded this, actually happened to win, and not really on fair terms.

How about if Curry promoted himself and got awarded All-Star started in front of Dwight Howard? Kinda like the almost absent year in which Shaquille got the All-Star game when he barely played and was playing terribly and Howard was having an amazing year.

People were pissed, and I do have to say, it shouldn't be right if it isn't done in a good manner.

Only if they are as good as Chris Bosh.

RIGHT BUBBA!!!!

doesnt bother me...kind of pointless in my opinion thought

Portland did it with Roy twice (Leathman for ROY and iRoy for Allstar game) and now with Aldridge for MIP. Honestly i see nothing wrong with it. It is just the organization supporting their players. They are not running a smear campaign or bringing others down, just hyping up there own player. Maybe your Jazz should have done a Williams for ASG campaign


I dont know if it ever happened, but i remember Cuban talking about buying an Ad Space @ the Allstar Game or something the year Finley didnt make it. That is just cool imo (especially if he really did it).

If I was a star player, this kind of stuff would look ridiculous. I wouldn't do it, simply beecause I'm not an attention whore, and could care less about marketing myself, since I'd already be a star.

Ethical? Well it's not really going to kill anyone, but Chris Bosh is the only one who did anything remotely good.

You know what, If I had a vote for MVP race. I think is a close call between Paul and Kobe. Am not even a Kobe fan, not a Paul fan. But the fact Paul is outright acting like cheerleader for himself. Kobe gets the MVP. Aren't players supposed to care about one thing, and one thing only. Their team winning. And getting the trophy.

Is Paul just playing for himself. Doesn't that show a certain arrogance that you think you are the MVP. Let your play speak for itself. Don't be your own cheerleader. Let others do it for you.

it's so cheesy

Marty Burns had an interesting column on the subject in January.

Marty Burns wrote:It's very cool.

And very wrong.

At least it's wrong to send as a gift to media members paid to provide objective coverage of the Blazers and the NBA.

I know I'm returning mine (as soon as I can pry it from my wife's hands, that is)...

I'm not sure where the line is between a promotional gift and a bribe, but I don't need to consult my company's policy to know it would be wrong to accept it.

Blazers' 'iRoy' gift crosses ethical line for journalists
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... index.html

The teams do this basically as an investment in the player. Once free agency rolls around, they want the player to thing "Wow, management has really been supportive of me during my time here. Why would I want to leave?"

NBA awards don't really have much meaning, though (Aside from the millions of dollars in contract clauses they come with). I honestly don't think a journalist is going to let their vote be swayed by who hooked them up with the coolest swag.

The NBA should banned this ishh. Its so childish

Fans hyping up their fav players? Sure. Teams launching website and sending gifts to media and other coachs? Thats just sad

Good players from small market teams need boosts like this to even be recognized. Sports Center is biased as to the stars and teams they highlight, and if sending out a highlight reel of your star player gets them noticed...why not. Not a lot of the NBA coaches have a chance to watch game film of other players from every other team by the time the ASG rolls around. I don't find anything wrong with the manner in which they promoted Roy.

CoolD wrote:But the fact Paul is outright acting like cheerleader for himself. Kobe gets the MVP. Aren't players supposed to care about one thing, and one thing only. Their team winning. And getting the trophy.

Is Paul just playing for himself. Doesn't that show a certain arrogance that you think you are the MVP. Let your play speak for itself. Don't be your own cheerleader. Let others do it for you.

You're not really that absent-minded, are you?

Do you really think Chris Paul went to the Hornets organization and pleaded with them to launch all the MVP-related stuff?



edit: and uh, I think Paul is doing a fine job of letting his play speak for himself. wtf "cheerleading" has he done?

"I feel like my team is the MVP," Paul said. "We are having an outstanding year."

If the NBA made a ruling that gift were not allowed I would completely understand but getting this worked up over this is silly. I have a hard time believing that the people who received this gifts (basically a $300 Ipod or $60 lettermen) would be truly swayed by them. I don't having an idea how much those members of the media or coaches make up im pretty sure it would be a bit more to effectively "buy them off" like people think these gifts do.

: This thread reeks of bitter fans.

Rick Carlisle did the same thing for Ron Artest for DPOY in '04..... no one complained then about these tactics.

Milkdud wrote:: This thread reeks of bitter fans.

+1

So they launched a site. I say it's not a big deal.

The iPods however... that's another story.

The same goes for New Orleans (I can't remember if the fans or the club) sending Hornets scrapbooks to each MVP voter for whatever reason (gee, I wonder why ).

That's severely lacking in tact and courtesy.

Then again, pretty much all of the awards have become a mr. congeniality contest, so why not try a little more "persuasive technique".

Bah, I don't know.

Is not caring one way or the other un-fanlike?

I guess it depends on what you're a fan of--basketball games or the extracurricular stuff. I personally am a fan of the game so I don't give a hoot who does what to win whatever award.

2poor wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I was just getting ready to come post that quote by CP. They said CP doesn't talk about MVP AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. But you gotta love how people try to twist sh*t around to try to make Paul look like the bad guy.

Tyson even said in his blog that CP doesn't talk about it. The guy just wants to win. He's all about the 'team'.

Chris doesn't talk about the MVP at all. I think we talk about it more for him than he speaks on it. I honestly haven't heard him say one thing about the MVP since all this has been going on. But I've been saying a lot and a lot of other players have been saying a lot, because he's our guy and we feel like he's proven himself to be the MVP.

http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5800001252