Who can be extremely effective without scoring?

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #21 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:14 am

Caron Butler, Chris Paul, J-Kidd, Marcus Camby

Post #22 » by **Young_Star11** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:15 am

Tracy McGrady

Post #23 » by **Flash3** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:18 am

Blame Rasho wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Zo and Deke anchor the paint... unlike Bowen he can only be effective outside the paint.

He can still have a great impact on the game, making it hard for his man to get the ball, get into position, etc.

But yea, valid point.

Blame Rasho · Post #24 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:24 am

I also say three point shooters... You put a guy like Brent Barry out on the floor and your team just spaces the floor much better for other players. I think that is our biggest problem recently our spacing.

Jemini80 · Post #25 » by **Jemini80** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:41 am

Brendon Haywood.... he doesn't really score anyway, but is just a great big man. I'm glad he finally is starting to live up to the potential i saw in him at UNC.

Post #26 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:18 am

It's primarily defensive type players (like Duncan, KG or Camby) or play-makers (like Paul, Nash, Deron, Kidd).

Joseph17 · Post #27 » by **Joseph17** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:09 am

TMACFORMVP wrote:It's primarily defensive type players (like Duncan, KG or Camby) or play-makers (like Paul, Nash, Deron, Kidd).

Exactly. Hustle players also help their team without scoring.

Post #28 » by **rsavaj** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:13 am

Nash/Marion+Contract Year Boris Diaw

Chubby Chaser · Post #29 » by **Chubby Chaser** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:58 am

Magic Johnson was the best at this IMO.

Duiz · Post #30 » by **Duiz** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:03 am

lol.. I am amazed no one is speaking about Andrei Kirilenko. He is Hakeem Olujawon without the scoring.

Post #31 » by **King Roosk** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:03 am

Duiz wrote:lol.. I am amazed no one is speaking about Andrei Kirilenko. He is Hakeem Olujawon without the scoring.

Or the rebounding, stealing, commanding of the paint, need to double/triple team him, etc. Andrei Kirilenko is not Hakeem Olajuwon.

AgEnT50 · Post #32 » by **AgEnT50** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:15 am

King Roosk wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Or the rebounding, stealing, commanding of the paint, need to double/triple team him, etc. Andrei Kirilenko is not Hakeem Olajuwon.

Not even close. . .

bigkevatoz · Post #33 » by **bigkevatoz** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:17 am

Duiz wrote:lol.. I am amazed no one is speaking about Andrei Kirilenko. He is Hakeem Olujawon without the scoring.

kill yourself

wilt · Post #34 » by **wilt** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:33 am

Blame Rasho wrote:I also say three point shooters... You put a guy like Brent Barry out on the floor and your team just spaces the floor much better for other players. I think that is our biggest problem recently our spacing.

That

Ballings7 · Post #35 » by **Ballings7** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:42 am

Brad Miller - passing (quite good)

writerman · Post #36 » by **writerman** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:01 am

On the Pacers a perfect example is Jeff Foster. He is a superior rebounder and terrific defender and he doesn't need to have the ball to have a big impact on the game.

magicfan4life05 · Post #37 » by **magicfan4life05** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:30 am

ben wallace in his prime was amazing w/o scoring

DarthBane · Post #38 » by **DarthBane** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:46 pm

No votes for Jason Kapono, Adam Morrison or Matt Carroll?

|||-Abaddon-||| · Post #39 » by **|||-Abaddon-|||** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:56 pm

Anyone who can consistently draw defenses toward them and create open space for the other teammates to produce.

Players Like:

1) Shaq - Doubles, triples means teams are trying to neutralize him. He is productive by kicking it out to GOOD shooters.

2) Wade, Lebron -- these two guys attack the rim relentlessly, they score, so defenses are sucked in towards the paint. Whenver there is a cluster, they usually do a fine job of locating the shooter for the easy 3.

If theyre having an off-night in terms of shooting/scoring, teams respect them enough to honor the attack orientated games, for which all they have to do is let the other teammates do the scoring.