MVP Watch Part VI

[tkb]

Link for Part 1
Link for Part 2
Link for Part 3
Link for Part 4
Link for Part 5

Here's the result of a project I ran where I picked out 50 posters from the forums and had them vote on all awards.
RealGM forum accurately predicts awards again?

[semi-sentient]

Sweet. Looking forward to reading that.

[Texas Longhorns]

Same with me.

[RobertGlory]

part 1: 122 pages, feburary 18th
part 2: 100 pages, march 4th
part 3: 100 pages, march 21st
part 4: 98 pages, april 6th
part 5: 98 pages, april 16th
part 6: ?????????????????

[abarl]

We should mention at this time RIP for Jules as he was a big contributor to the previous 5 parts. Im not sure what happened to him but it is a big loss for the Kobe huggers. He increased the amount of posts by an easy 15%


Thx Jules

[ChocolateThundr]

I agree about him. As much of a homer that he was, He still held his own against a legion of CP homers.

[abarl]

^^^^


Seriously tho what happened to him?


Did he lose a power struggle against a NO homer mod?


Is he on a serious bender and still sleeping?


I cant believe a guy would post so much then just drop off the this forum.

[NO-KG-AI]

umm, he was a previously banned user, I'm sure he's back.... actually....

[og15]

Random comment from the previous one:

I was the only person here calling out the Cavs for their stupid offense too. Everybody said I was just a hater but go over to their forum now and you see them saying the exact same things I was saying then. Portland fans go on me about saying Blake and Jones performances weren't sustainable and now that their streak has ended they see that I was right. So no it doesn't show me anything except you guys are caught up in the media hype so much that you think Chris Paul is making Peja.

He's not making Peja now anymore than Mike Bibby made him in 2003. He's the same dude playing a completely different role

Man, I've thought their offense was garbage since Mike Brown became the coach of that team lol

I agree about him. As much of a homer that he was, He still held his own against a legion of CP homers.

There was like 3 or 4 maybe

[Doctor MJ]

4/16

End regular season

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Chris Paul
3. LeBron James
4. Dwight Howard
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Steve Nash
7. Tim Duncan
8. Paul Pierce
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Dirk Nowitzki

Thoughts:

Although it was a close race, I have no hesitation in choosing Kobe at #1, which actually makes it less close that some other recent races ('04-05 & '05-06). I had Paul at #1 in my last list a week and a half ago and planned to keep him there as long as NO finished first. However it didn't even come down to that. I had Paul at the top because he had been so brilliant in the second half of the year I couldn't deny him if his team ended up at the zenith. However that superior performance fell off quite a bit to end the season when his team desperately needed him to be in the zone.

Given that, I have to consider Paul's great run as just that, not his "true level of performance". And over the course of the year, Paul's average performance doesn't impress me as much as Kobe's. Kobe just had to deal with more bad things being thrown his way.

Awards:

All-NBA 1st Team

Dwight Howard
Kevin Garnett
LeBron James
Chris Paul
Kobe Bryant

All-NBA 2nd Team

Amare Stoudemire
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Steve Nash
Chauncey Billups

All-NBA 3rd Team

Pau Gasol
Dirk Nowitzki
Antawn Jamison
Allen Iverson
Manu Ginobili

DPOY

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Josh Smith
3. Shane Battier

ROY

1. Al Horford
2. Kevin Durant
3. Jamario Moon

6MOY
1. Manu Ginobili
2. Jason Terry
3. Leandro Barbosa

MIP
1. Chris Paul
2. Hedo Turkoglu
3. Jose Calderon

[SA37]

2007-2008 NBA Awards:

All-NBA 1st Team

C - Dwight Howard
F - Kevin Garnett
F - LeBron James
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Chris Paul

All-NBA 2nd Team

C - Tim Duncan
F - Amare Stoudemire
F - Carlos Boozer
G - Steve Nash
G - Deron Williams

All-NBA 3rd Team

C - Marcus Camby
F - Paul Pierce
F - Antawn Jamison
G - Allen Iverson
G - Manu Ginobili

All NBA Defensive 1st Team

C - Marcus Camby
F - Kevin Garnett
F - Tim Duncan
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Chris Paul

All NBA Defensive 2nd Team

C - Dwight Howard
F - Shane Battier
F - Josh Smith
G - Bruce Bowen
G - Chauncey Billups

MVP

1. Chris Paul
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Steve Nash
5. LeBron James

DPOY

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Marcus Camby
3. Kobe Bryant

ROY

1. Kevin Durant
2. Al Horford
3. Al Thornton

6th Man

1. Manu Ginobili
2. Leandro Barbosa
3. Jason Terry

MIP

1. Hedo Turkoglu
2. Jose Calderon
3. Monta Ellis

COY

1. Byron Scott
2. Rick Adelman
3. Phil Jackson

[Schad]

I haven't posted in this thread before, so I'm going to get my money's worth rambling about things of which everyone is already aware.

Kobe deserves to win an MVP, and should have won one two seasons ago. However, I've always disliked that the results of past votes are taken into account...and focusing on this season alone, I just can't look past the numbers that Chris Paul has posted.

Kobe's 28/6/5 and terrific defense makes for an excellent season, MVP calibre most years. But Paul's season has been one for the ages: no player in league history has put up 20/10 with less than 3 turnovers a contest...to be in possession of the ball that much and to generate that much of the team's offense while being so precise is mind-boggling. Throw in the fact that he was comfortably above that threshold in all three categories, led the league in steals, and carried his team to 56 wins (I can't penalize him for the one game difference between the Hornets and Lakers), and Paul gets my vote...though I won't be disappointed when the real voters choose Kobe.

What's even more amazing is that LeBron is barely in the picture, despite putting up points/rebounds/assists totals matched only by Jordan and Oscar Robertson. While it's hard to penalize a guy for playing with little by way of help, the statistical gap between he and Kobe is small enough that record (and strength of schedule) wins out. Overall votes:

MVP

1. Chris Paul
2. Kobe Bryant
3. LeBron James
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Dwight Howard

DPOY

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Josh Smith

ROY

1. Kevin Durant
2. Al Horford
3. Jamario Moon

6th Man

1. Manu Ginobili
2. Leandro Barbosa
3. Jason Terry

MIP

1. Hedo Turkoglu
2. Mike Dunleavy
3. Jose Calderon

(I excluded 2nd year players, past MIP winners...and my MVP)

COY

1. Byron Scott
2. Eddie Jordan
3. Rick Adelman

All League 1st Team:
G: Chris Paul
G: Kobe Bryant
F: LeBron James
F: Kevin Garnett
C: Dwight Howard

All League 2nd Team:
G: Steve Nash
G: Deron Williams
F: Amare Stoudemire
F: Carlos Boozer
C: Tim Duncan

All League 3rd Team:
G: Allen Iverson
G: Baron Davis
F: Carmelo Anthony
F: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Marcus Camby

All Defensive 1st Team:
G: Chris Paul
G: Kobe Bryant
F: Tim Duncan
F: Kevin Garnett
C: Marcus Camby

All Defensive 2nd Team:
G: Deron Williams
G: Bruce Bowen
F: Ron Artest
F: Josh Smith
C: Tyson Chandler

[semi-sentient]

2007-2008 NBA Awards

MVP
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Chris Paul
3. Kevin Garnett
4. LeBron James
5. Steve Nash

DPOY
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Josh Smith
3. Kobe Bryant

ROY
1. Kevin Durant
2. Al Horford
3. Al Thornton

6th Man
1. Manu Ginobili
2. Leandro Barbosa
3. Jason Terry

MIP
1. Hedo Turkoglu
2. Jose Calderon
3. Mike Dunleavy

COY
1. Byron Scott
2. Doc Rivers
3. Phil Jackson

All-NBA 1st Team
C - Dwight Howard
F - Kevin Garnett
F - LeBron James
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Chris Paul

All-NBA 2nd Team
C - Marcus Camby
F - Amare Stoudemire
F - Tim Duncan
G - Manu Ginobli
G - Steve Nash

All-NBA 3rd Team
C - Tyson Chandler
F - Carlos Boozer
F - Caron Butler
G - Allen Iverson
G - Deron Williams

All NBA Defensive 1st Team
C - Marcus Camby
F - Kevin Garnett
F - Tim Duncan
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Jason Kidd

All NBA Defensive 2nd Team
C - Dwight Howard
F - Shane Battier
F - Josh Smith
G - Bruce Bowen
G - Chauncey Billups

[GYBE]

MVP

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Chris Paul
3. LeBron James
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Manu Ginobili

DPOY

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Shane Battier
3. Josh Smith

ROY

1. Kevin Durant
2. Al Horford
3. Luis Scola

6th Man

1. Manu Ginobili
2. Leondra Barbosa
3. Jason Maxiell

MIP

1. Hedo Turkoglu
2. Jose Calderon
3. Mike Dunleavy

COY

1. Byron Scott
2. Rick Adelman
3. Stan Van Gundy

All-NBA 1st Team

C - Amare Stoudamire
F - Kevin Garnett
F - LeBron James
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Chris Paul

All-NBA 2nd Team

C - Dwight Howard
F - Tim Duncan
F - Paul Pierce
G - Manu Ginobili
G - Steve Nash

All-NBA 3rd Team

C - Marcus Camby
F - Carlos Boozer
F - Dirk Nowitzki
G - Allen Iverson
G - Deron Williams

All-NBA Defensive 1st Team

C - Marcus Camby
F - Kevin Garnett
F - Shane Battier
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Rajon Rondo

All-NBA Defensive 2nd Team

C - Dwight Howard
F - Josh Smith
F - Tim Duncan
G - Raja Bell
G - Chauncey Billups

[INKtastic]

MVP:

1. Kobe
2. Paul
3. LeBron
4. KG
5. Howard

That's also pretty clearly the first team all NBA

[BringYoAGame]

MVP
1. Kobe Bryant
Runners-Up: 2. Chris Paul, 3. Kevin Garnett, 4. LeBron James, 5. Dwight Howard

ROY
1. Kevin Durant
RU: 2. Al Horford, 3. Al Thornton, 4. Luis Scola, 5. Jemario Moon

DPOY
1. Kevin Garnett
RU: 2. Josh Smith, 3. Kobe Bryant, 4. Shane Battier, 5. Gerald Wallace

6th Man
1. Manu Ginobili
RU: 2. Leandro Barbosa, 3. Jason Terry, 4. David Lee, 5. Josh Childress

MIP
1. Hedo Turkoglu
RU: 2. Mike Dunleavy, 3. Jose Calderon, 4. Chris Paul, 5. Andrew Bynum

COY
1. Byron Scott
RU: 2. Rick Adelman, 3. Doc Rivers, 4. Phil Jackson, 5. Stan Van Gundy

All-NBA Teams:
1st: G Chris Paul, G Kobe Bryant, F LeBron James, F Kevin Garnett, C Dwight Howard
2nd: G Chauncey Billups, G Manu Ginobili, F Paul Pierce, F Amare Stoudemire, C Tim Duncan
3rd: G Steve Nash, G Allen Iverson, F Antawn Jamison, F Dirk Nowitzki, C Chris Bosh

All-Defensive Teams:
1st: G Kobe Bryant, G Josh Smith, F Shane Battier, F Kevin Garnett, C Dwight Howard
2nd: G Chauncey Billups, G Chris Paul, F Gerald Wallace, F Tim Duncan, C Marcus Camby

All-Rookie Teams:
1st: G Rodney Stuckey, G Jeff Green, F Kevin Durant, F Al Thornton, C Al Horford
2nd: G Ramon Sessions, G Thaddeus Young, F Jemario Moon, F Luis Scola, C Joakim Noah

GMOY
1. Danny Ainge
RU: 2. Mitch Kupchak, 3. Sam Presti

[CB4MiamiHeat]

ill go with Kobe as my MVP...i had Lebron for the 1st half, and Paul most of the rest of the season....but Kobe was just slightly behind, and the way he ended the season and his team being in 1st in one of the toughest Western Conference races, i have to give it to him on what should be his 2nd MVP.

MVP.

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Chris Paul
3. Lebron James
4. Kevin Garnett

[Big Bird]

MVP

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Chris Paul
3. LeBron James
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Manu Ginobili

Hey, man, you should just use a John H. screen name, so we know who you are. j/k

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Chris Paul
3. Kevin Garnett
4. LeBron James
5. Tim Duncan

DPOY

1. Kevin Garnett

ROY

1. Kevin Durant

6th Man

1. Manu Ginobili

MIP

1. LaMarcus Aldridge

COY

1. Byron Scott
2. Rick Adelman
3. Nate McMillan

All-NBA 1st Team

C - Dwight Howard
F - Kevin Garnett
F - LeBron James
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Chris Paul

All-NBA 2nd Team

C - Amare Stoudamire
F - Tim Duncan
F - Paul Pierce
G - Manu Ginobili
G - Steve Nash

All-NBA 3rd Team

C - Yao Ming
F - Carlos Boozer
F - Dirk Nowitzki
G - Allen Iverson
G - Deron Williams

All-NBA Defensive 1st Team

C - Marcus Camby
F - Kevin Garnett
F - Shane Battier
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Chauncey Billups

[Andrew Bynasty]

We should put a poll on this thread...

[GreenWithEnvy]

why are we doing league awards??? this is the mvp thread.