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avery is the perfect fit for phoenix
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 3:07 am
by thaAteam
its a veteran team with great offense that need to be pushed defensively avery would do that and with a great pg and solid frontline he could take the suns over the top. kerr make the calllllllllll
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 3:24 am
by Vindicater
Maybe, I dont know if they have the defensive parts to work, plus avery is a control freak that would crowd Nash too much
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 3:46 am
by Basileus777
I wonder how Nash will like Avery micromanaging everything and calling in all the plays. Maybe he will install his ISO offense too, that would be amusing.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 3:53 am
by Milkdud
Avery is not a good fit for the Suns, IMO he is better served on a team attempting to rebuild where he would be coaching younger players. Teams built around talented vets don't need or want Avery barking out every play.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 4:28 am
by NetsForce
Isolation plays for Raja Bell you say? I'm all for it!
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 4:33 am
by Milkdud
Major OT: Does anyone else thing Avery sounds like a banjo when he speaks?
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 4:57 am
by Texas Longhorns
Both Phoenix and Dallas should swap coaches.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:06 am
by LAKESHOW
averys system is founded and rooted in nellies system of basketball. he has some differences, but overall, nellie was the coach that raised him and taught him his schemes.
and what has nellies teams won.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:08 am
by enigmatics
LAKESHOW wrote:averys system is founded and rooted in nellies system of basketball. he has some differences, but overall, nellie was the coach that raised him and taught him his schemes.
and what has nellies teams won.
You're trippin' ....... Once Nellie was gone, Avery immediately preached the basics of defense, something Nellie never did........as well as being versatile. Nellie was a one-trick pony.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:11 am
by enigmatics
LAKESHOW wrote:like i said, he had some differences. but nellies imprint has long been stamped on that team. and defense? pleeeeeze. after a 2-0 lead in the finals, that defense was non-existent. hey, kinda like nellies.
Just because they choked, doesn't mean they hadn't focused on defense. That whole season they played tremendous defense. Your logic fails.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:11 am
by LAKESHOW
like i said, he had some differences. but nellies imprint has long been stamped on that team. and defense? pleeeeeze. after a 2-0 lead in the finals, that defense was non-existent. hey, kinda like nellies.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:15 am
by LAKESHOW
2-0 lead in the finals is more than choking. a choking team could at least win 1 more before losing.
BUT 4 STRAIGHT?!?
that speaks of a system failure that again, is part of what nellie/avery implemented on that team.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:20 am
by enigmatics
LAKESHOW wrote:2-0 lead in the finals is more than choking. a choking team could at least win 1 more before losing.
BUT 4 STRAIGHT?!?
that speaks of a system failure that again, is part of what nellie/avery implemented on that team.
.........they didn't play the same system! Just because they both failed to win a championship, it doesn't mean they ran the same one ....... that's like saying because both you and I aren't both millionaires yet, we both haven't ever bought any lottery tickets.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:22 am
by Basileus777
Huh? Avery ran a completely different offensive scheme than Nellie...
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:25 am
by enigmatics
Basileus777 wrote:Huh? Avery ran a completely different offensive scheme than Nellie...
Try getting that thru the thick skull of our boy LakeShow .......dude is in denial.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:29 am
by LAKESHOW
sheeesh, some folks around here need to wake up and smell the coffee. nellie was head coach. nellies son was assistant coach. nellies son moved up to the offices and ruled from there. but of course, avery earned his way and applied for the job like everyone else, and got his coaching experience and knowledge from elsewhere.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:41 am
by enigmatics
LAKESHOW wrote:sheeesh, some folks around here need to wake up and smell the coffee. nellie was head coach. nellies son was assistant coach. nellies son moved up to the offices and ruled from there. but of course, avery earned his way and applied for the job like everyone else, and got his coaching experience and knowledge from elsewhere.
Statistics are your friend.
The 2003-2004 Mavs with Nellie:
Offense - 105.1 pts/g
Defense - 100.7 pts/g
The 2004-2005 Mavs with Nellie and Avery:
Offense - 102.5 pts/g
Defense - 96.7
The 2006-2007 Mavs with Avery:
Offense - 100.0 pts/g
Defense - 92.8 pts/g
The team clearly transitioned from an uptempo free-flowing team to a defensive-minded, iso-focused team when Avery took over.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 5:49 am
by Iggyemu
Nash's inability to play defense will drive Avery nutty.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 6:14 am
by Chubby Chaser
Avery would be a horrible coach for the Suns. Avery needs a young athletic team who needs a tough coach to whoop them into shape and wake them up.
Phoenix needs a defensive minded coach, that would still let Nash run up and down the court every now and then.
Solution: Switch Larry Brown with Avery Johnson.
Larry Brown would be the perfect Coach for the Suns. He's defensive minded. He knows how to set up half court traps to stop system offenses. He knows to give someone like Nash freedom to operate (like he did with Iverson).
Avery in Charlotte would be a perfect fit. I have no idea why that team isn't competing in the east. They are probably the most under achieving team next to Miami this year. There is so much young emerging talent on Charlotte that all they need is a barking coach to keep them focused, smack them every now and then to remind them how good they can be. Avery's one on one exploit mismatches on offense would be perfect in Charlotte since the bobcats are a super athletic team but are not used to playing team ball to get points.
Posted: Fri May 2, 2008 7:24 am
by Slava
Solution: Make Steve Nash player/Coach. He knows the system better than anyone else and he knows what they lack and what they need.