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NBA Offense > NBA Defense ?
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:46 am
by SteveMorrison15
I was watching the San Antonio, New Orleans game and I saw Chris Paul get to the lane with ease. Charles Barkley made a note saying that with San Antonio being a Great Defensive team, how do they let New Orleans break through. I'm not knocking New Orleans, I'm just pointing out that San Antonio's Defense broke down.
LeBron breaks Detroit's and Bostons Defense.
Are players like Kobe and LeBron too good for any Defense?
Is that how good players are now and days?
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:57 am
by Teen Girl Squad
A great offense has been and always will be better than a great defense. Obviously you need both sides of the ball and rebounding to win but in general this is true. The one thing defense has over offense is that it can be applied much more consistently which is why is usually critical when you need to win 16 games to end the year.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:57 am
by Mr. Savage
With the current ruleset that zone defenses aren't allowed and the dimensions of an NBA court, I will have to say that certain players are more or less unstoppable.
That is actually a reason, I don't really enjoy watching NBA basketball that much and would prefer to watch more Euroleague instead, since it is a purer form of Basketball.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:58 am
by theGreatRC
New Orleans was also playing great defense. The closed out every open man, hustled for loose balls, and just overall wanted it more. A combo of well executed offense plus an overall effort from the team on the defensive end will help you win.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:12 am
by Ballings7
You can't rely on offense to win games, you need to be able to fall back on your defense and rebounding to win games. You still need a signficantly competitive offense, but like said, offense isn't going to be a consistency, because it's more varied in the process.
You have to be relatively balanced on both ends of the court, and then how you match up and adjust to the other team.
With the Spurs/Hornets series, I think combined with the Spurs going home, putting Bruce Bowen on Peja to limit him will be key, that adjustment may well change the series quite a bit. Because with Peja and West getting contained (from what they were doing previously)and with Paul being basically unguardable, that is the most favorable scenario.
Going to be interesting.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:16 am
by RobertGlory
great defense facilitates great offense
when cp3 goes coast to coast it sure isn't after a made basket.
great offense leads to a margin of error on defense
and we shouldn't confuse great offense with fast offense.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 8:58 am
by chrice
A good offense is a good defense.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 2:06 pm
by triplet1984
its because NBA changed the rules to try and rig the game against the pistons and the spurs.
of course the Spurs kept on winning anyways but still.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 2:37 pm
by austinjw
Yea, the rules are the biggest thing making offenses look so good. Although a good offense is usually greater than a good defense, the rules in the NBA definitely increase the offense's advantage.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 4:14 pm
by Kobay
austinjw wrote:Yea, the rules are the biggest thing making offenses look so good. Although a good offense is usually greater than a good defense, the rules in the NBA definitely increase the offense's advantage.
No it doesn't. Current game makes taking long shots like 3 pointers desirable. Thats why Peja dropped 25 on 8/13 shooting on spurs. Hornets modeled their team after the spurs. Spurs don't have as much fire power as the hornets do. Hornets have better three point shooters, better front court and equal or slightly less back court. Its now up to who will steal the opponent's home game at this point.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 4:28 pm
by Dtown84
Considering the leagues best three defenses are still alive in the playoffs (and NO isn't a slouch either), I'm leaning toward no.
Oh yeah Kobe and Lebron can break most defenses, but you can't use two of the best scoring stars in the league as the standard for the league.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:37 pm
by Basileus777
One-on-one, a great offensive player is going to beat a great defensive player the vast majority of the time. Thats why team defense is more important. Teams like San Antonio and Boston aren't filled with great individual defenders, but play great team defense, which is the only thing that can stop players like LeBron, Kobe, and Paul.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:52 pm
by jboogy13
just ask steve nash and the boys lol
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 9:13 pm
by Ballings7
Basielus777 wrote:One-on-one, a great offensive player is going to beat a great defensive player the vast majority of the time. Thats why team defense is more important. Teams like San Antonio and Boston aren't filled with great individual defenders, but play great team defense, which is the only thing that can stop players like LeBron, Kobe, and Paul.
Spot on.
Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 10:59 pm
by kooldude
great offense is greater than great defense simply because the offense knows where he's going and the defense can only predict. Defense wins championships because that great defensive teams are usually good offenses in terms of efficiency.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:42 am
by Ballings7
Ballings7 wrote:
With the Spurs/Hornets series, I think combined with the Spurs going home, putting Bruce Bowen on Peja to limit him will be key, that adjustment may well change the series quite a bit. Because with Peja and West getting contained (from what they were doing previously)and with Paul being basically unguardable, that is the most favorable scenario.
Going to be interesting.
Good stuff. Forgot about Manu probably starting, though.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:47 am
by LiquidFire
the only thing lebron broke on the celtics is his jumpshot.