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If Tom Thibodeaux leaves Boston in the offseason...
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:52 am
by Texas Longhorns
Will the Celtics defense remain the same as it was this season?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:53 am
by magicfan4life05
no way
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:17 am
by Cruel_Ruin
Houston is still an elite defensive team, even without Thibodeau. What makes you think the C's will be any different?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:18 am
by NO-KG-AI
Yes, Detroit didn't turn to mush when they lost Larry Brown did they? The DPOY is still there, and the mentality is still there.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:22 am
by Texas Longhorns
Cruel_Ruin wrote:Houston is still an elite defensive team, even without Thibodeau. What makes you think the C's will be any different?
IMO, he had nothing to do with the Rocket's defense. It was mainly all JVG. The assistant coaches weren't much of anything then, except maybe Ewing working on Yao.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:42 am
by Simplicity0
You can't just forget how to play defense.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:52 am
by richboy
If Doc Rivers is in control I dont think so. They might stay top 5 but I doubt they play at the level they did this year.
If I'm Boston I would let Doc go before I let him go. The Celtic offense lacks any imagination. IMO Ray and Pierce lower offensive numbers have as much to do with Doc's offense as anything else.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:55 am
by P2
His name is Tom Thibodeauxxx. Can't you look it up?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:16 am
by tha_rock220
Texas Longhorns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
IMO, he had nothing to do with the Rocket's defense. It was mainly all JVG. The assistant coaches weren't much of anything then, except maybe Ewing working on Yao.
Well JVG is gone and we're still a good defensive team. I hope we maintain that next year. It'd be nice if Tom came back to Houston as an assistant next season. He's a great defensive coach and he works well with Yao.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:27 am
by baroidi
Texas Longhorns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
IMO, he had nothing to do with the Rocket's defense. It was mainly all JVG. The assistant coaches weren't much of anything then, except maybe Ewing working on Yao.
Thibadeaux was the one that put more work in with Yao. Ewing was on a free ride in Houston from JVG.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:34 am
by CITYOFANGELSX3
No they wont and Thibadeaux will go to the lakers. and they'll roll off twelve titles straight.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:58 am
by BallAboveAll
Yeah it has a lot to do with KG who demands defense. As passive as he is on offense at times, this guy defends hard and rebounds. And he's intense which forces his guys to step it up.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:09 am
by celticfan42487
Yes IMO, with Doc calling out the calls for the defensive rotations the demands in game change and it isn't like BOS is stockpiled top to bottom with defensive specialist.
It takes all the effort in the world to cover Ray Allen all year long, and if Sam Cassell returns for an entire year instead of just the end in garbarge time during the regular season and you take away PJ Brown and suddenly you just have a angry KG and Perkins still trying their best but in the end the team with swarm menality is gone.
I have no doubt in my mind if Doc is in control of both offense and defense the defense won't see the coordination it has from Thibs sole focus and game calling.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:36 pm
by ropjhk
NO-KG-AI wrote:Yes, Detroit didn't turn to mush when they lost Larry Brown did they? The DPOY is still there, and the mentality is still there.
But Detroits defense did take a hit after Brown left the team. The first season under Saunders produced a very different looking Detroit team that was very efficient offensively, but not as dominant defensively as it was under Brown.
Detroit's defense though has been steadily getting better under Saunders.