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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:21 am
by Cruel_Ruin
The problem is, that the SG position is the most one-dimensional in the game. The prototypical SG's job is to score, which doesn't necessarily pertain to making everyone around you better. It's rare to see a SG who truly makes his teammates better like Kobe or Jordan.

Are Star 6'6" Shooting Guards Hard to Find?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:21 am
by Patterns
6'6 is the ideal height for SGs as proven by MJ and Kobe. However, besides Kobe, who else in the league right now is an all-star every year that plays shooting guard and is 6'6?

Looking at the 2008 NBA All-Star roster, the only player other than Kobe who is 6'6 is Brandon Roy but he hasn't proven anything yet.

People say that finding a good shooting guard is the easiest but is finding a dominant shooting guard the hardest thing to do in the NBA?

You have dominant PGs like Williams, Paul, Nash, Parker, Kidd, Davis, etc. Then you have dominant SFs like Lebron, Melo, and Pierce. PFs are plenty. Centers are becoming relevant again with Dwight, Yao, Bynum, and next year with Oden.

But what about that franchise shooting guard? Is Wade, at 6'4 a shooting guard or is he more of a tweener between SG and PG?

Almost every team in the league has a SG who's either too big or too small and just a role player.

Is the SG position the hardest to find elite players at or is it just the least important of all positions?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:22 am
by Texas Longhorns
They aren't hart to find. The talent level of a Kobe or MJ is hard to find.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:23 am
by nets150551
vince carter, hes a star 6''6 shotting gurad

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:23 am
by LiquidFire
vince carter, ray allen, joe johnson

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:24 am
by Patterns
nets150551 wrote:vince carter, hes a star 6''6 shotting gurad

What about Franchise players? With the exception of the Lakers, I can't seem to think of another team that has a legit franchise SG.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:24 am
by TheOUTLAW
Stars are hard to find but if I had to find one I think 6'6" shooting guards might be the easiest to fine.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:25 am
by DelaneyRudd
Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


What about Franchise players? With the exception of the Lakers, I can't seem to think of another team that has a legit franchise SG.

Are you kidding me?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:26 am
by JDawg
SG is just a noun man.

But you are forgetting VC, Redd, Ray Allen among others man.

Come on now. They arent chump change.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:27 am
by Wade2k6
What's the difference of their height? Wade is a SG, not a PG-SG combo.

I would say the only true star SG's are Kobe and Wade. Then again, I only consider about 6-7 players true stars in this league. (KG, LeBron, TD, Paul)

I wouldn't say SG is the least important position, but it is the hardest to find a player that can truely dominate. Wade and Kobe have shown they can completely dominate games and win at the biggest stage while being legit no.1 options.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:27 am
by Wizards2Lottery
Nick Young = future all star at SG who is 6'6" lol

yeah but dude will be sick.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:27 am
by Patterns
DelaneyRudd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Are you kidding me?

Can you tell me one?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:27 am
by CB4MiamiHeat
Tmac?

Kobe is more like 6-5 ... i read that somewhere

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:28 am
by ak06ma
Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Can you tell me one?


Not Kobe, he's 6-4.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:30 am
by BRINGTHEPAIN
Michael Jordan's youngest son Marcus will be the next great SG.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:32 am
by Wade2k6
I'm still not understanding why it matters whether the players 6'6 or not.. who cares?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:35 am
by Texas Longhorns
CB4MiamiHeat wrote:Tmac?

Kobe is more like 6-5 ... i read that somewhere


Ok, first of all, T-Mac is 6-10 (according to Garnett) and listed 6-9 on NBA.com...

Kobe is 6-6 for sure. He was on Best Damn once and they measured his height...

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:36 am
by ljp24
Texas Longhorns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ok, first of all, T-Mac is 6-10 (according to Garnett) and listed 6-9 on NBA.com...

Kobe is 6-6 for sure. He was on Best Damn once and they measured his height...


Most sites always say he's 6-4, 6-5 or 6-7. I remember him being taller than Jordan back in '97.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:38 am
by MalReyn
SG is a meaningless label.

Rather, we have "wing" players (including Kobe, Lebron, Melo, etc.) who are capable of playing either SG or SF.

Honestly, the whole position system is basketball should be reevaluated. Better catagories would be something like: pure point, combo guard, wing, combo forward, post player, pure center.

Re: Are Star 6'6" Shooting Guards Hard to Find?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:42 am
by Red Robot
There are plenty of good shooting guards around that size. Manu, Martin, Roy, Rip, Allen, Vince. They aren't all perennial allstars, but how many players are?

That said, the shooting skill is so important to today's teams. Some teams are better off going with a shooter instead of a better rounded player.