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Tidbits from Darryl Dawkin's book "Chocolate Thunder&am

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:31 am
by Point forward
Hey there, I am currently reading Darryl Dawkin's book "Chocolate Thunder". I am happy to say that it is not the fluffy run-of-the-mill ghostwritten shtick, but quite an interesting, authentic look on the NBA of the 1970s and 1980s. Dawkins, which I previously regarded as a spoilt man child, seems matured and pulls no punches at persons he does not like, including himself. Here some tidbits according to DD:

HIMSELF
DD seems a bit bitter that coaches like Billy Cunningham and Lary Brown just saw him as a sideshow attraction, and therefore also the refs never gave him respect. But he also admits that he was very inconsistent and simply as not good as e.g. Kareem or Lanier.

THE DUNKS
Of course, DD loves his dunks, I think that it is his blood. DD recalls how happy NBA fans were to see those shattered backboards. The NBA commissioner severly rebuked Dawkins, but at the same time was a fringe league scrambling for spectators. People were lining to up see the Sixers, and were horrified in a delightful way to see Dawkins. But the NBA officials effectively neutered Dawkins and robbed themselves of one of the biggest tickets.

SIXERS
The Sixers were Doc's team, and coach Cunningham exclusively drew up plays for Doc and McGinnis. BC looked down at World B. Free and DD as useless streetball players, so he never drew up plays for them. In the 1978 series vs SAS (i.e. Doc vs Gervin), PHI had a huge mismatch of beefy Dawkins vs stick insect Paultz, but BC and PG Mo Cheeks insisted to dump it to Doc and ignore DD. Gervin outshot Doc, and PHI lost in 7.

In the lost 1979 NBA Finals, Cunningham overused Doc, and Mo was too stupid to pass to anyone else but Doc. Also, he did not counter that aging Doc had to play D vs quick Wilkes, and little Mo Cheeks was brutally mismatched vs Magic. Also, Kareem was sniggering at BC for snubbing DD and thus never forcing him to play low post D. In the clinching Game 6, it is an urban legend that Magic played center: DD mostly played Jim Chones. Magic mostly torched Doc via the SF position. One anecdote: the LA fans taunted ultra religious Bobby Jones at the FT line by flashing him pics of naked women. Jones went 0-of-2 and nearly airballed both.

In the lost 1981 NBA ECF (PHI lost 3-4 after being up 3-1), DD credits the clutchness of Larry Bird and Cedric Maxwell. Then he was traded, but although he still dislikes BC, he felt happy that the Sixers finally won it all.

RACIAL QUESTIONS
Dawkins says that the 1970s were a weird era. Black and white players did not really mingle, but they also did not shun each other. However, he observed that white players who played "black" (e.g. dunking god Tom Chambers) were admired but black players who played "white" (e.g. fundamentally sound) were jeered at.

BEST AND WORST NBA CITIES
DD describes Salt Lake City as very loyal, PHI as very passionate, and BOS and LA as very knowledgable. DET is seen as a city where "fans are happy when things go wrong on their own team".

For picking up girls, Nr. 1 place is Salt Lake City. Dawkins does not have an explanation for this, but he asserts that SLC is the place to pick up the hottest girls. Close behind were ATL and NO, and by far the worst was NY, "because the girls always lied to you". Among others, getting pregnant from an NBA players was one of the best ways to get a quick buck.

SEX, DRUGS AND MONEY
In the 1970s, nobody had heard about AIDS yet, and if you did not get laid as a NBA player, "something was wrong with you". One of the most prolific "scorers" on those Sixers teams was Henry Bibby. As a GOAT pick up line, Henry Bibby bluntly asked girls: "Hey, you want to f***?" DD was puzzled how effective this line was.

Also, 90% of the NBA ballers used drugs in the 1980s. Usually they smoked weed, but some players like Terry Furlow, Walter Davis and Eddie Johnson (ATL) regularly used hard stuff (crack and coke). One of the worst cokers was Michael Ray Richardson, who DD regards as the best PG not named Magic: MRR destroyed his career by taking too much coke and was finally blackballed by the NBA as a lone scapegoat. DD still says that more than 50% of today's NBA players do drugs. He himself says that he had about 1,000 girls, but "nowhere near" the gargantuan appetite of this guy called Wilt.

The third big bane was money. In the era before competent sports managers came, many players got robbed by shady managers, like Kareem or also DD52 himself.

MOST UNSTOPPABLE PLAYERS
DD names Bob Lanier and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Lanier had that wide bottom that you could not get around to save your life (or got dunked on viciously if you tried), and Kareem's sky hook was utterly unstoppable. You could see it coming and you could do NOTHING. But one day, Lanier told DD to block Kareem's sweet spot on the left lane. When he did, Kareem was angry, and then frustrated, because it meant he had to shoot his hook from elsewhere.

BASKETBALL OF THE 1990s
For DD, true centers are a rare breed, because they are able to dish out and TAKE severe beatings. For him, only Shaq, Ewing and maybe Sabonis were true 1990s centers, but Hakeem, Mourning and Sampson PFs forced into C. (Hakeem was super great, but could not really take a beating) Also, he thinks that ppl are too obsessed about dunking, so real jump shooters who connect automatically on midrange Js like Reggie Miller and Allan Houston are a dying breed. He really likes Phil Jackson because he can do everything: defense, offense, motivation.

MOST OVERRATED/UNDERRATED PLAYERS
DD calls Robert Parish mentally soft and Larry Bird's stooge. David Thompson is taunted as a dunk-only one trick pony, and Jason Williams as the epitome of everything wrong in the NBA marketing division. As underrated, Dawkins names Dennis Johnson, who simply could lock up his guy, Nate Thurmond, Gus Gerard and John Williamson.

OBLIGATORY WILT ANECDOTE
If you play for the Sixers, no way you can circumvent Wilt. A popular anecdote about Wilt was when he was coach in the ABA. He once was too late to make it to a game (he had female compaionship), so he taped his prep talk on a cassette and had his co-trainer play it to the team before the game. Can anyone beat that?? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:17 pm
by dacher
great review.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:10 pm
by Point forward
Thanks for the nice words. Here some more quotes by DD...

Elmore Smith: "Could have rewritten the record books if he had the slightest interest in basketball. Instead, he was seldomly seen w/o Jack Daniels."

George McGinnis: "Mr Sticky Hands. Never passed the ball and instead chucked it all the time."

Bill Walton: "Gets a bum rep for smoking weed and being a Grateful Dead-listening hippie. But he was a great player who knew all the fundamentals."

Michael Jordan: "He was the first black guy who was not seen anymore as black. He made blacks acceptable in the world, and that is a huge compliment."

Rick Barry: "Thinks he is God's give to basketball and behaves as such."

Isiah Thomas: "Nobody dared to demand the ball unless he had already hit his quota of 5 shots. Outwardly smiling, in reality a SOB."

Dennis Rodman: "The craziest character ever, ringing my bell 12x every day to ask if were alright. Mastered every dirty trick on defense and could therefore guard players much bigger than him."

Bill Laimbeer: "Motivated not so much by the love of the game, but more by the will to show that he was more than just the son of a millionaire."

Shaq: "Reminds me a lot of myself... put that left shoulder down and plow into the low post. Where I always got the offensive foul, he gets away unharmed."

Iverson: "Huge respect, he gives 100%. But I don't like his hip hop, which is anti-woman and anti-gay."

VC and T-Mac: "Both are supremely talented but so inconsistent."

Webber: "The typical New Age superstar, but thinks he can do it all on adrenaline and talent only. Very unfocused."

Hill: "If he becomes even softer, he will melt like a puddle. A crybaby."

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:06 pm
by kooldude
"One anecdote: the LA fans taunted ultra religious Bobby Jones at the FT line by flashing him pics of naked women. Jones went 0-of-2 and nearly airballed both."

HAHA

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:18 pm
by RJM
I MUST get this book!

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:26 pm
by Malinhion
Nice review.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:34 pm
by CatNation
Wow. He definitely doesn't have any friends. What a dick

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:44 pm
by Myth_Breaker
Great quotes, PF - thanks for sharing with us again - though I would take many of them with a grain of salt. Even Rosen, who helped Dawkins to write this book - hence rates him higher than usually similar players - told us the following story about his hero and Cunningham:

"One day before practice, Dawk was called over to the bench by his coach, Billy Cunningham.

"Have a seat," Billy C. said. "There's something I want to talk to you about."

Darryl was happy to oblige.

"You been in the league for five seasons, Darryl. I know that you're still a youngster, but you have so much incredible talent that you could easily be an All-Star for many seasons to come. What bothers me, Darryl, is that you're wasting your talents. You don't work hard enough and you don't take the game seriously."

"Yeah," said Dawkins. "You're right, Coach."

"I mean, you're always kidding around with your buddy, World, when there's work to be done, and you never push yourself in practice."

"You're right, Coach."

"Do you want to be an ordinary player? Or do you want to be one of the best in the league? It's up to you, Darryl."

"You're right, Coach."

"You've got to change the way you approach the game, Darryl."

"Absolutely. From now on, you're going to see a new me. No more fooling around."

"That's it, Darryl. That's all you have to do."

"I'm going to work my butt off."

"All right, Darryl!"

"Starting from right now, I'm going to get serious."

"Yes, Darryl. Go for it."

They shook hands to seal their bargain. Then, as Billy C. stood up and started to walk away, Darryl gleefully stuck out a leg and deliberately tripped him.

While Dawkins laughed, Cunningham could only sigh."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7985752

Does it sound like Cunningham ignoring Darryl or rather Chocolate Thunder ignoring coach who tried to make him better?

In 1980 Game 6 Magic played center in offense: who guarded him from Sixers side is irrelevant to this - especially as many Phila players tried this and all of them failed. Anyway, Dawkins - notoriously bad defender, hence sharing time at C with defensively minded Caldwell Jones - would be the least probable candidate to make a difference here.

Dawkins never showed great basketball IQ, yet often trashes much better NBA minds who dared to disagree with him. Like Larry Brown: Darryl accuses him of putting Buck Williams instead of himself alternatively on Mahorn/Ruland when the Nets played vs. the Bullets due to Bruise Brothers being much bigger and more physical than Buck. But what was Brown supposed to do: bench Williams, who happened to be not only New Jersey's starting PF, but best player at this point and start some scrub who only happened to be bigger? Or perhaps make Dawkins guard both Mahorn and Ruland at once?

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:02 pm
by arrpy
Point forward wrote:Hill: "If he becomes even softer, he will melt like a puddle. A crybaby."


:rofl: :bowdown: :rofl:

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:29 pm
by Point forward
Myth_Breaker wrote:Thanks for sharing with us again - though I would take many of them with a grain of salt. Even Rosen, who helped Dawkins to write this book - hence rates him higher than usually similar players - told us the following story about his hero and Cunningham

[snip]

Does it sound like Cunningham ignoring Darryl or rather Chocolate Thunder ignoring coach who tried to make him better?

In 1980 Game 6 Magic played center in offense: who guarded him from Sixers side is irrelevant to this - especially as many Phila players tried this and all of them failed. Anyway, Dawkins - notoriously bad defender, hence sharing time at C with defensively minded Caldwell Jones - would be the least probable candidate to make a difference here.

Dawkins never showed great basketball IQ, yet often trashes much better NBA minds who dared to disagree with him. Like Larry Brown: Darryl accuses him of putting Buck Williams instead of himself alternatively on Mahorn/Ruland when the Nets played vs. the Bullets due to Bruise Brothers being much bigger and more physical than Buck. But what was Brown supposed to do: bench Williams, who happened to be not only New Jersey's starting PF, but best player at this point and start some scrub who only happened to be bigger? Or perhaps make Dawkins guard both Mahorn and Ruland at once?


All valid points. The thing about biographies and autobiographies is that the players want to seem likeable, either as the shining knight or the likable loser/anti-hero. In DD's case, he wants himself to be the likeable loser. Those Cunningham and Brown stories also appear in the book and also made me scratch my head. But it is interesting so hear Dawkins' POV of these historical moments. DD may read a bit childish and bitter at times, but he seems pretty honest and non whitewashing in his opinions.

All in all, whenever I think of DD, the person I am immediately reminded of is SHAQ. Both are great crowd-pleasers, but also have their childish and spoilt moments. I wonder whether DD would have fared better if he had been born 10 or 20 years later.

PS I just read why DD thinks that Salt Lake City has the hottest chicks. He says that because of their strict religious upbringing, the girls just CRAVE for some raucous entertainment. Can an Utah Jazz fan confirm this? :D

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:18 pm
by Myth_Breaker
Point forward wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



All valid points. The thing about biographies and autobiographies is that the players want to seem likeable, either as the shining knight or the likable loser/anti-hero.

Very accurate summary. :-)

In DD's case, he wants himself to be the likeable loser. Those Cunningham and Brown stories also appear in the book and also made me scratch my head. But it is interesting so hear Dawkins' POV of these historical moments. DD may read a bit childish and bitter at times, but he seems pretty honest and non whitewashing in his opinions.

All in all, whenever I think of DD, the person I am immediately reminded of is SHAQ. Both are great crowd-pleasers, but also have their childish and spoilt moments. I wonder whether DD would have fared better if he had been born 10 or 20 years later.

There are people claiming that Shaq is basically Dawkins who get calls, but I don't amount to them. Dawkins is basically poor man's Shaquille.


PS I just read why DD thinks that Salt Lake City has the hottest chicks. He says that because of their strict religious upbringing, the girls just CRAVE for some raucous entertainment. Can an Utah Jazz fan confirm this? :D


I don't quite envision guys from Salt Lake City admitting here that local girls are bored due to them not providing entertainment. ;-)

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:40 pm
by FlashFlood
Sweet, I dont have to read the book I can just check this cheat sheet.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:44 pm
by TommyTheCat
thanks for the run down. i'll probably pick that up.

as for the magic not playing center in game 6 of the finals.............who was tipping off for the lakers at the begginning of the game..............magic.

obviously, magic played very little of the game at center but he did actually play that position in the game.