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NBA Technical Foul policy for playoffs

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:54 pm
by ropjhk
Obviously this thread is inspired by Rasheed Wallace. Should the league allow players a minimum amount of techs for each round?

Let's say Rasheed and the Pistons make it to the finals. Right now Sheed has 6 techs, one more would result in a suspension. This leaves him with only one tech to use in the finals. If Sheed misses one game, that could brew up a firestorm on controversy. Does anybody really want to see a player miss a game in the finals due to a suspension for technical fouls?

If the league gave Sheed a minimum of techs for the round, say 2 techs, then the above controversy would be much less likely to happen, and even more blame can be deflected towards the offending player.

Why two? Well, after a player gets suspended, they are suspended again for every other tech. So the player will get two more techs. In a funny way, if Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce all seriously injure themselves in game 6, Rasheed may be better off ripping a new one into an official to get his automatic suspension over and done with, so that he'll have a two tech cushion in the finals, since it would be likely the Pistons could win game 7 without him.

Obviously that scenario is extreme and very much not likely to happen.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:14 pm
by seejaydeja
i don't see how blame would be on anyone but the player with how things are now. if you can't keep your cool and not get more than 7 techs during the playoffs, thats your problem, not the leagues.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:10 pm
by kevC
Maybe... I don't know I'm just thinking at the top of my head here... just don't get a tech? It's not that hard to do.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:30 pm
by Patterns
Yes, this rule needs to be changed. If it does happen and happens in the Finals, it would create a storm of outrage and the NBA will change the rule next year.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:14 pm
by hoop_head
Patterns wrote:Yes, this rule needs to be changed. If it does happen and happens in the Finals, it would create a storm of outrage and the NBA will change the rule next year.


Rasheed's fortune is in his own hands. Play like a mature adult, no problem. This isn't his first ride on this technical foul train. If he cannot control himself when it really counts, he deserves what he gets. No rule change is required, this is all about Rasheed and his lack of self control. If winning it all means so much to him, and he doesn't want to let his team down, he must keep a lid on his temper. If not, it's nobody's fault but his.

Re: NBA Technical Foul policy for playoffs

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:18 pm
by ffz2000
ropjhk wrote:Let's say Rasheed and the Pistons make it to the finals. Right now Sheed has 6 techs, one more would result in a suspension. This leaves him with only one tech to use in the finals.


I dont think the league views technical fouls as something player should "use". There's discussing a call with the officials in a peaceful manner and there's being a jackass. Officials are giving 'Sheed lots of leeway as it is.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:33 pm
by C2C
If you can't go 25 games without getting 7 techs you deserve to get suspended, Noone else is even close to 7, Rasheed needs to act like an adult

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:14 pm
by LakerFanMan
Im going to go another way, I don't think anyone should get suspended for techs. I think a player should just get thrown out for every tech after 5.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:18 pm
by High 5
There's a reason it's always Rasheed Wallace spuring these discussions. He's the idiot that can't control himself.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:35 pm
by Liqourish
3 of Sheeds tech were double techs when he was talking to another player and the refs just wanted to make a point and punished both. Obviously, those three players are out of the playoffs so it doesn't matter to them.

Also, one of Sheeds techs should have been called on McDyess. McDyess got into a fight with Rashard Lewis in round two, when the ref went to call both for techs, he called the tech on Rasheed instead of Dice. Flip Saunders tried to have it switched over to the rightful player but it never happened.

Officials are giving 'Sheed lots of leeway as it is.


read above :roll:

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:03 pm
by High 5
Sheed has 6, the next highest still in the playoffs is 2. 1 or 2 could be questionable, he still does it way too much. He has a history and that history can work against him at times. No one's fault but his own.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:26 pm
by ropjhk
One thing I will say about Rasheed is this:

Officials are quicker to give him a technical foul than anybody else in the league.

Of course, it's true that he deserves most of his techs. But some of the ones he gets, you look at how he got them and you realize that the official is really out to get him.

He however does deserve blame for having six already. No excuse for putting your team in jeopardy like that.

And if I'm an opposing player, I'll try to antagonize him into a double technical.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:35 pm
by 5DOM
i think the rule is stupid in the first place.

the person who commits the foul is getting penalized in game anyway.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:38 pm
by PopAGat
Nah man, Sheeds da man. Love that guy. He brings drama to games.

They should clean the record of techs in the finals. That way no team can complain about losing players.

IMO it should be 12 technicals through the quarter, semi and conference finals. Then 9 technicals in the finals.

If the player goes above the limit charge $1500 per every additional technical.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:50 pm
by KyleCleric
they should keep the rule for 7 technical, but add that the player needs to get two or three T's in the series before he gets a one game suspension. So if Rasheed was to get a 7th T in a game 7 win, he would not miss game 1 in the finals.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:58 pm
by SunTzuMachiavelli
the rule needs to be changed. not just for rasheed, but because it's a dumb rule. It penalizes players for winning a series. The 'Rasheed Wallace Rule' is idiotic and completely unnecessary.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:27 pm
by mr_sunshine
SunTzuMachiavelli wrote:the rule needs to be changed. not just for rasheed, but because it's a dumb rule. It penalizes players for winning a series. The 'Rasheed Wallace Rule' is idiotic and completely unnecessary.


Are you serious? It's really not hard to get less than 7 Ts in the playoffs unless you're a **** moron. Hence why Sheed is the only player with more than 2. :nonono:

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:53 pm
by SunTzuMachiavelli
mr_sunshine wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Are you serious? It's really not hard to get less than 7 Ts in the playoffs unless you're a **** moron. Hence why Sheed is the only player with more than 2. :nonono:


First of all Sheed is far from a moron, he's just overly emotional. Secondly, If he was eliminated in the first round this wouldn't be an issue. Having a rule like this in place has multiple bad effects...

1. it has the potential to suspend talent over meaningless lip service.
2. it gives the ref more power with less basis.
3. It makes it so teams who played tough, physical, emotional basketball in a long series have a disadvantage in the next series.
4. Refs are still free to call technicals for any reason including that of reputation.

Also because people have singled out Sheed for this, let me point out why it doesn't make sense in terms of marketing.

Rasheed Wallace once confronted Donaghy after he called him for an unwarranted technical. Sheed threatened to kick his ass and was suspended. To put this rule in place is basically giving power to the villain and confirming believes that the NBA is rigged. To attempt to silence the ONLY vocal player about this issue is very shady looking. Why do it anyways? Is it really that big of an issue?

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:19 am
by Hard2dhole
SunTzuMachiavelli wrote:First of all Sheed is far from a moron

SunTzuMachiavelli wrote:Rasheed Wallace once confronted Donaghy after he called him for an unwarranted technical. Sheed threatened to kick his ass and was suspended.


Threatening to assault a ref if you are not retiring after the game is the act of a moron.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:37 am
by shawngoat23
Rule is fine.

The technical assessed to him (and Kendrick Perkins) were not.