So.. if the Pistons want a go to scorer..

[Colossus]

So if the Pistons appear to need a go to scorer, it appears they may have to turn their sights on someone that a team would actually be looking to move for cap relief, as Sheed's expiring deal may seem mighty tempting to some teams. It also appears the majority of Pistons fans want Sheed gone.. so something needs to be done there.

Carmelo Anthony? Vince Carter?

Both have considerable problems, but both are definitely big time scorers. If they plan on keeping a Rip/Billups backcourt, I can see Carmelo or Vince fitting in at SF.. obviously they both have big flaws, but they can fill up the scoreboard..

Rasheed and Afflalo for Vince works in the trade checker.. Nets continue with their rebuilding plan with Rasheed's expiring deal, they get a young 2 in Afflalo, and get rid of Vince's contract that appears to have been somewhat of a mistake for them. Besides, they have Jefferson to do a lot of what Carter does as well.. picks may have to trade hands here as well.

Nets end up with Boone/Sheed/Jefferson/Harris/someone at SG.. could be an interesting team with lots of caproom opening up when Sheed leaves. Pistons get a rotation of Amir/Maxiell/ Prince/Vince/Rip/Billups/Stuckey.. could be interesting there, too.

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Rasheed/Tayshaun/Afflalo for Carmelo/Nene/Hunter works in the trade checker too.. Nuggets may want to get rid of Carmelo's distractions once and for all, and they already have AI to do the scoring.. it appears Carmelo not doing much on defense doesn't help the Nuggets. Maybe getting Prince there instead with his commitment to defense, and having Rasheed play while being an expiring deal can be good, especially since they get rid of Nene's albatross of a contract as well. Guy can't stay healthy.. he may turn things around, but they may want to cut their losses.

Nuggets end up with Camby/Sheed/Tayshaun/AI/JR Smith, might be a nice different look for them.. Pistons end up with Nene/Maxiell/Carmelo/Rip/Billups/Stuckey.. not a bad rotation possibly.

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I'm just throwing these out there, don't know if these trades will make fans of the respective teams vomit.. but it appears they all may need to do something dfferent.. thoughts? Awaiting flames.. don't have anything better to do this late on a Friday night, thought I'd throw this out there.

[JellosJigglin]

There was no such thing as a go to scorer until the creation of the Machine. The Machine was created specifically for scoring on the go.

[JellosJigglin]

the Machine in action.





Unstoppable.

[Colossus]

I have a feeling the Machine is going to malfunction when the Celtics come to town.. he must have been built with planned obsolescence in mind.

[Hunter]

I agree the Pistons need a legit go to scorer, but I'm not sure Vince or Melo are the answer.

Granted this may be a bit far fetched, but I'm hoping Stuckey can develop into that sort of player. I think he'll be a 20+ ppg scorer in the near future, what I don't know is if he'll be able to be an efficient 20 ppg scorer. The dude can definitely get in the paint and to the line, but shooting 40% ain't gonna get it done.

Anyway, I'm sure we'll hear all sorta of names being tossed around this summer and it'll be pretty interesting. We'll see what happens.

[Warspite]

So if the Pistons appear to need a go to scorer, it appears they may have to turn their sights on someone that a team would actually be looking to move for cap relief, as Sheed's expiring deal may seem mighty tempting to some teams. It also appears the majority of Pistons fans want Sheed gone.. so something needs to be done there.

Carmelo Anthony? Vince Carter?

Both have considerable problems, but both are definitely big time scorers. If they plan on keeping a Rip/Billups backcourt, I can see Carmelo or Vince fitting in at SF.. obviously they both have big flaws, but they can fill up the scoreboard..

Rasheed and Afflalo for Vince works in the trade checker.. Nets continue with their rebuilding plan with Rasheed's expiring deal, they get a young 2 in Afflalo, and get rid of Vince's contract that appears to have been somewhat of a mistake for them. Besides, they have Jefferson to do a lot of what Carter does as well.. picks may have to trade hands here as well.

Nets end up with Boone/Sheed/Jefferson/Harris/someone at SG.. could be an interesting team with lots of caproom opening up when Sheed leaves. Pistons get a rotation of Amir/Maxiell/ Prince/Vince/Rip/Billups/Stuckey.. could be interesting there, too.

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Rasheed/Tayshaun/Afflalo for Carmelo/Nene/Hunter works in the trade checker too.. Nuggets may want to get rid of Carmelo's distractions once and for all, and they already have AI to do the scoring.. it appears Carmelo not doing much on defense doesn't help the Nuggets. Maybe getting Prince there instead with his commitment to defense, and having Rasheed play while being an expiring deal can be good, especially since they get rid of Nene's albatross of a contract as well. Guy can't stay healthy.. he may turn things around, but they may want to cut their losses.

Nuggets end up with Camby/Sheed/Tayshaun/AI/JR Smith, might be a nice different look for them.. Pistons end up with Nene/Maxiell/Carmelo/Rip/Billups/Stuckey.. not a bad rotation possibly.

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I'm just throwing these out there, don't know if these trades will make fans of the respective teams vomit.. but it appears they all may need to do something dfferent.. thoughts? Awaiting flames.. don't have anything better to do this late on a Friday night, thought I'd throw this out there.

As a Pistons fan I would rather have Jefferson than VC. The Pistons realy need a scorer/rebounder. A young Kareem would be best. A sign and trade for Brand or a trade for Al Jefferson would fit.

I proposed a trade of Rip/Sheed for TMac but Im not sure it would be more than a lateral move.

melo isnt coming here. Joe Dumars passed on him when he could have gotten him for nothing. He like many of us knew who he was a long time ago. Besides whats the point in tradeing for a 25ppg scorer if his opponet scores 22ppg. I would rather have the 17ppg Prince who can hold his man to 12ppg.

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

Granted this may be a bit far fetched, but I'm hoping Stuckey can develop into that sort of player. I think he'll be a 20+ ppg scorer in the near future, what I don't know is if he'll be able to be an efficient 20 ppg scorer. The dude can definitely get in the paint and to the line, but shooting 40% ain't gonna get it done.

You're joking right? What player averages less than 10 points a game at age 21 and went on to average 20+ ppg? Not many I bet. Except Steve Blake of course, who will average 36 ppg next year, and scoring 82 points in a single game.

[blue steel]

There was no such thing as a go to scorer until the creation of the Machine. The Machine was created specifically for scoring on the go.

seriously, this joke was old before it started.

[Hunter]

You're joking right? What player averages less than 10 points a game at age 21 and went on to average 20+ ppg? Not many I bet. Except Steve Blake of course, who will average 36 ppg next year, and scoring 82 points in a single game.

Don't be ignorant. Any number of players, All-Stars and even superstars have come into the league as kids and had less than stellar statistical impacts their rookie years. Dude missed the first 25 games of the season with a broken hand and is playing behind an All-Star backcourt. How many other rookies in that same situation would have averaged 10+ ppg?

Rip Hamilton, Joe Johnson & Josh Howard all averaged fewer than 10 ppg rookie seasons just to name a few. And many of the guys who averaged 12-15 ppg their rookie years were playing starter minutes on horrible teams.

[7r5ur]

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And many of the guys who averaged 12-15 ppg their rookie years were playing starter minutes on horrible teams.

This is the most important thing. All-Star talent players don't usually end up on teams that have been deep into the playoffs many years in a row, so saying he has to average "X" amount his rookie year is ridiculous. Many future "Stars" would look like role players statistically on teams that were already good before they got there. Especially when that team's 2 best players play his the positions he plays.

Rodney most could most definitely become a 20+ppg guy in the next couple years.

To add to your list Hunter, try Kevin Martin. He averaged 2.9ppg his rookie year (and his team was only mediocre). This season he was 7th in league in scoring @ 23.7ppg.

[SunTzuMachiavelli]

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You're joking right? What player averages less than 10 points a game at age 21 and went on to average 20+ ppg?

Sidney Moncrief
Michael Adams
Gary Payton
Drazen Petrovic
Scottie Pippen
Doug Collins
Jamal Crawford
Baron Davis
Ricky Davis
Clyde Drexler
Joe Dumars
Antawn Jamison
Richard Jefferson
Joe Johnson
Kevin Johnson
Shawn Kemp
Corey Maggette
Richard Hamilton
Pervis Ellison
Alex English
Kevin Mchale
Cuttino Mobley
Dirk Nowitzki
Reggie Miller
Peja Stojakovic
Michael Redd
Larry Hughes
Micheal Ray Richardson
Clifford Robinson
Sleepy Floyd
Walt Frazier
Clyde Lovellette
Nate Thurmond
Rudy Tomjanovich
Andre Iguodala
Danny Ainge
Jermaine O'neal
George Yardley

there's probably more, but im lazy.

[Rasheeed!!!]

Yeah Stuckey looks like he can be that guy. He's got the confidence and he gets to the hoop whenever he wants. That being said, either Billups or Hamilton would have to go (I'd rather keep RIP) and obviously the frontcourt needs major tweaks.

[Phobo_Phile]

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You're joking right? What player averages less than 10 points a game at age 21 and went on to average 20+ ppg?

Sidney Moncrief
Michael Adams
Gary Payton
Drazen Petrovic
Scottie Pippen
Doug Collins
Jamal Crawford
Baron Davis
Ricky Davis
Clyde Drexler
Joe Dumars
Antawn Jamison
Richard Jefferson
Joe Johnson
Kevin Johnson
Shawn Kemp
Corey Maggette
Richard Hamilton
Pervis Ellison
Alex English
Kevin Mchale
Cuttino Mobley
Dirk Nowitzki
Reggie Miller
Peja Stojakovic
Michael Redd
Larry Hughes
Micheal Ray Richardson
Clifford Robinson
Sleepy Floyd
Walt Frazier
Clyde Lovellette
Nate Thurmond
Rudy Tomjanovich
Andre Iguodala
Danny Ainge
Jermaine O'neal
George Yardley

there's probably more, but im lazy.

Damn. Ownage.

[telele]

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As a Pistons fan I would rather have Jefferson than VC. The Pistons realy need a scorer/rebounder. A young Kareem would be best. A sign and trade for Brand or a trade for Al Jefferson would fit.

I proposed a trade of Rip/Sheed for TMac but Im not sure it would be more than a lateral move.

melo isnt coming here. Joe Dumars passed on him when he could have gotten him for nothing. He like many of us knew who he was a long time ago. Besides whats the point in tradeing for a 25ppg scorer if his opponet scores 22ppg. I would rather have the 17ppg Prince who can hold his man to 12ppg.

So you would rather have RJ who yes can still put up 20PPG but can't run a team or creat for him self vs maybe one of the best SG's in the league that can score at will and run a team, rebound, pass , play decent D lol do you watch any Nets games?

[Colossus]

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As a Pistons fan I would rather have Jefferson than VC. The Pistons realy need a scorer/rebounder. A young Kareem would be best. A sign and trade for Brand or a trade for Al Jefferson would fit.

I proposed a trade of Rip/Sheed for TMac but Im not sure it would be more than a lateral move.

melo isnt coming here. Joe Dumars passed on him when he could have gotten him for nothing. He like many of us knew who he was a long time ago. Besides whats the point in tradeing for a 25ppg scorer if his opponet scores 22ppg. I would rather have the 17ppg Prince who can hold his man to 12ppg.

I'm pretty sure he passed on Melo because he thought Darko was going to be better, not because Melo was trash. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision. The thing is Prince cannot guard top level SF's anyway, so his defense may not be necessary. Pierce had his best playoff series this year against Prince, maybe I don't see enough of Prince, but that's what I gather from the Pistons board as well. If that's the case, might as well as stick in a scorer like Melo and see if everyone else's defense can raise his somehow. Hamilton wasn't considered a good defender until he came to Detroit, now he's "pesky". The thing is Prince is not going to be a game changer, and that hurts Detroit right now.

[Colossus]

I agree the Pistons need a legit go to scorer, but I'm not sure Vince or Melo are the answer.

Granted this may be a bit far fetched, but I'm hoping Stuckey can develop into that sort of player. I think he'll be a 20+ ppg scorer in the near future, what I don't know is if he'll be able to be an efficient 20 ppg scorer. The dude can definitely get in the paint and to the line, but shooting 40% ain't gonna get it done.

Anyway, I'm sure we'll hear all sorta of names being tossed around this summer and it'll be pretty interesting. We'll see what happens.

The thing is can Rip, Stuckey, and Billups all start? Isn't that lineup too small? Are you Pistons fans satisfied with Rip and Billups? Don't know if Rip can handle SF at his size.

[legacyinthemakin89c]

No way Stuckey starts next year. The only thing the Pistons need is a post presence. They need a guy they can throw the ball down low too and get a bucket. To be honest, I really think we should make a run for Eddy Curry. I know its completly irrational and he is the opposite of what makes a good Piston. But if he can give us 12-15 ppg in the post, then those are points that will come easier then 90% of the buckets we scored this year. We very rarely scored inside and have become a strictly jump shooting team, one of the best jump shooting teams ever, but we lack anyone who can consistently score in the post. I think if we can add that type of piece, I really think all we need to do is retool.

Billups(33)/Stuckey(15)
Rip(33)/Stuckey(10)/Afflalo(5)
Prince(35)/Whoever we can get
Rasheed(15)/Maxiel(20)/McDyess(18)
Curry(25)/Sheed(18)/Amir(5)

I'm sure we could work a deal around something like a Hermann sign and trade, Afflalo maybe, or something else for Curry.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Curry is horrendous. He is at least 30 pounds overweight. He really shouldn't see the court on any team

[Roscoe Sheed]

Depending on what they can get for Billups, I think they should explore their options trading him. If they could get a solid front court player and a backup PG for him, they should think of pulling the trigger

A dream trade would be Amir or Maxiell, Dice, and Billups for Aldridge and Jack. Portland probably wants to desperately hold onto Aldridge though

[Colossus]

Depending on what they can get for Billups, I think they should explore their options trading him. If they could get a solid front court player and a backup PG for him, they should think of pulling the trigger

A dream trade would be Amir or Maxiell, Dice, and Billups for Aldridge and Jack. Portland probably wants to desperately hold onto Aldridge though

Ehh.. that and I'm sure Portland is fine with Brandon Roy handling the ball. Aldridge and Oden have too much potential together to give that up for a vet in Dice, and a middling prospect, and Billups. If they don't believe Roy can handle the ball fulltime then they may go after Billups.. but I don't think Aldridge is on the table.