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whats the most overrated stat in the nba?
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:08 pm
by thaAteam
I would say assist because if u handle the ball a lot u can slip and fall into atleast 5 of those
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:10 pm
by carrottop12
Well you're wrong about assists, I would say steals or shot blocking.
Tyson Chandler doesn't get a lot of blocked shots but is a great intimidator, and Amare Stoudamire gets a lot of blocked shots but is a crap defender.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:13 pm
by Buck You
Steals. People say a guy is a great defender because he steals the ball. When in reality, it's mostly just playing passing lanes. Some guys though, like Chris Paul actually rip the ball away.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:14 pm
by triplet1984
3 point shooting percentage
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:19 pm
by Optimus_Steel
Well i would say on RealGM is the Per-48 mins stats.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:21 pm
by bballmaniac27
steals and blocked shots. Being good at either doesn't necessarily mean you're a good defender.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:23 pm
by Rich Rane
It used to be blocks and steals. On the boxscore now, it's +/-.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:25 pm
by Copperhead
ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:Steals. People say a guy is a great defender because he steals the ball. When in reality, it's mostly just playing passing lanes. Some guys though, like Chris Paul actually rip the ball away.
Yeah, like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb6_0tZWUMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUUjZniLrsU
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:38 pm
by LakerFanMan
Probably Points Per Game (PPG) or PER.
PER has become the stat for ranking players.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 9:43 pm
by Nolan
bballmaniac27 wrote:steals and blocked shots. Being good at either doesn't necessarily mean you're a good defender.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:04 pm
by Sroek
ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:Steals. People say a guy is a great defender because he steals the ball. When in reality, it's mostly just playing passing lanes.
That's an underrated aspect of defense.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:09 pm
by devwat12
PPG. Unless it's being analyzed in conjuction with FG% and FGA it doesn't tell you a whole lot.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:27 pm
by Kobay
rebounds and assists
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:37 pm
by Snakebites
My first thought was steals. Apparently thats not an unoriginal thought.
Managing to pick off a couple each game is indicative of little more than a good eye and good timing. It is hardly indicative of stellar defense.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:52 pm
by Buck You
Sroek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
That's an underrated aspect of defense.
It's more gambling then anything.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:59 pm
by Sroek
ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
It's more gambling then anything.
I believe it has more to do with reading the opponent's offense and making educated predictions.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 11:06 pm
by andyhop
Sroek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I believe it has more to do with reading the opponent's offense and making educated predictions.
But on its own it doesn't tell you much.If you get 3 steals a game playing the lanes but get beaten 8 times a game trying it leading to lay ups you are a terrible defender.The stat doesn't really tell you anything of use.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 11:08 pm
by Simplicity0
Assists, easily.
The way they're counted
The players around a point guard
How much the point guard has control of the ball
The effect on possessions
The way assists are counted is horrible, especially with Chris Paul, Steve Nash, and almost all the other high assist players. Guys can dribble after getting the ball and they'll still get the assists.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 11:11 pm
by Manocad
I can tell you what the most overrated thread topic is.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 11:32 pm
by GOOOGLEdotcom
I would say steals. Steals doesn't = defense. It's mainly gambling.