Doc Rivers - First black coach in 22 yrs to win a ring

Chief · Post #1 » by **Chief** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:19 am

Last one was funny enough Boston in 86 under KC Jones..

That is a long time between drinks isnt it..?

Avery did come close but just found it interesting considering the strong african-american influence on the game..

CITYOFANGELSX3 · Post #2 » by **CITYOFANGELSX3** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:15 am

Wow, NBA is racist.

7r5ur · Post #3 » by **7r5ur** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:06 am

Well, to be fair, only 7 different coaches won titles in those 22 years. Phil Jackson (X9), Pat Riley (X3), Greg Popovich (X4), Rudy Tomjanovic (X2), Chuck Daly (X2), and Larry Brown.

CircleCitysportsfan · Post #4 » by **CircleCitysportsfan** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:15 am

A poke a dot (Please Use More Appropriate Word) Dolphin could of won a ring with that team. That is the dumbest stat ever. I'm black btw and it's still dumb, it wasn't a first and race has nothing to do with being a good coach...wtf???? Why even mention it, we are past that.

ps- that wasn't a shot at the OP but whatever media outlet reported it.

Post #5 » by **5DOM** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:46 am

Sam Mitchell is going to win us a championship 22 years later

Point forward · Post #6 » by **Point forward** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:35 pm

It has been 35 years ago since a Jew (Red Holzman) won the NBA championship. I smell an anti Jewish consipiracy. Where is the Mossad when you need them?

thaAteam · Post #7 » by **thaAteam** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:44 pm

yea, and hes probably the worst coach in nba history to have won one, if he would have made kg stay on the block instead of shooting 18 foot jumpers the whole playoffs he could have won a lot faster

kinch · Post #8 » by **kinch** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:38 pm

Point forward wrote:It has been 35 years ago since a Jew (Red Holzman) won the NBA championship. I smell an anti Jewish consipiracy. Where is the Mossad when you need them?

Larry Brown says call off your snipers.

The Main Event · Post #9 » by **The Main Event** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:46 pm

Point forward wrote:It has been 35 years ago since a Jew (Red Holzman) won the NBA championship. I smell an anti Jewish consipiracy. Where is the Mossad when you need them?

Who needs a coach when the commissioner is jewish.

RJM · Post #10 » by **RJM** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:32 pm

BDM22 wrote:Well, to be fair, only 7 different coaches won titles in those 22 years. Phil Jackson (X9), Pat Riley (X3), Greg Popovich (X4), Rudy Tomjanovic (X2), Chuck Daly (X2), and Larry Brown.

Well yeah, but...so? Race shouldn't have to matter. I'm all about talent.

thaAteam wrote:yea, and hes probably the worst coach in nba history to have won one, if he would have made kg stay on the block instead of shooting 18 foot jumpers the whole playoffs he could have won a lot faster

Dude, he isn't the worst coach in NBA History to have won one; there's no such thing considering he WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP! I actually believe he's a good coach. Listening in to the Wired Conversations, he spouts the stuff players actually want to hear. Great speaker. Who cares if he could have won it faster?!? The fact of the matter is that he WON it. That's it.

Stop hating.

Iggyemu · Post #11 » by **Iggyemu** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:58 pm

Very significant.

Gratz to Doc once again.

jairtime · Post #12 » by **jairtime** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:33 pm

Phil Jackson isn't black??

Fencer reregistered · Post #13 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:58 pm

6 Celtics head coaches have won championships. 3 were white (Auerbach, Heinsohn, Fitch); 3 were black (Russell, Jones, Rivers). 3 were former Celtics players; 1 was a non-Celtic former player; 2 never were NBA players at all.

I think those stats should suffice to put ANY thoughts of Celtics institutionalized prejudice to rest.

Otherwise, I don't think they're particularly significant.

Fencer reregistered · Post #14 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:01 pm

That said, we can't judge the basketball world to be wholly color blind until there are successful blacks OTHER than former NBA players. A significant fraction of coaches are college players who weren't good enough for the pros. When more of the blacks in that group make it big as coaches, THEN the game will we entitled to pat itself on the back.

Post #15 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:05 pm

Iggyemu wrote:Very significant.

Gratz to Doc once again.

It's insignificance is significant.

Curmudgeon · Post #16 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:11 am

What this shows is that a mediocre coach can win a championship.

Let me qualify that. Rivers is worse than mediocre as a tactician. His rotations are incomprehensible.

But he had two great strengths: (1) he let Tom Thobodeau orchestrate the defense and didn't interfere, and (2) he's a genuinely nice guy and his players want to win for him. I haven't seen a team more motivated to win since Jordan's Bulls.

Chief · Post #17 » by **Chief** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:55 am

My question to everyone is when does a mediocre coach become a good coach and how do tell? ie what measure do you apply to it?

Post #18 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:41 am

Where does McHales incompetence end and Ainge/Rivers talent begin? Doesn't matter. The organization won a championship.

ivDT · Post #19 » by **ivDT** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:10 am

Chief wrote:My question to everyone is when does a mediocre coach become a good coach and how do tell? ie what measure do you apply to it?

he's already past mediocre.

hell, i'd even say he's better than pat riley, but that's not really saying much.

cdubbz · Post #20 » by **cdubbz** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:02 am

honestly who cares. I'm not racist, but every time a black person does something are we gona say "the first black person to _____" or "the first black person to do _____ since ____"