Rookie Scale tweak

Post #1 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:45 pm

What if they changed the rules so that a team has the ability to match any FIBA regulated league offer for a player they have draft rights for? The player would still have the option to choose, but the teams will be able to keep more draft picks. The other leagues can't offer top Euro for top picks so this would really only effect picks lower than top 10 at the highest. It would still count every dollar in the cap so there won't be any advantage to teams who choose to draft this way.

Lakers_4_Life · Post #2 » by **Lakers_4_Life** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:57 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote:What if they changed the rules so that a team has the ability to match any FIBA regulated league offer for a player they have draft rights for? The player would still have the option to choose, but the teams will be able to keep more draft picks. The other leagues can't offer top Euro for top picks so this would really only effect picks lower than top 10 at the highest. It would still count every dollar in the cap so there won't be any advantage to teams who choose to draft this way.

If the NBA was smart they would do it, but the problem is that the players association would go nuts because the veteran NBA players have a huge issue with how much rookies make.

Post #3 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:09 pm

It wouldn't be much of a change at all. No team in Europe could offer a newly drafted Lebron 50 million. This is about a player like Tiago Splitter making a few more million.

Red Robot · Post #4 » by **Red Robot** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:27 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this included the next time the league modifies its rules. The NBA has too much to lose. They already have a number of rules concerning other clubs (like the way teams maintain draft rights if the player is under contract elsewhere), so I don't think it would be a big stretch. I also expect to see a change to the amount of money NBA teams can offer in buyouts.

It's true the player's association wouldn't be delighted, but this is important enough that the league would probably be willing to make a concession somewhere else.

Blame Rasho · Post #5 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:31 pm

I am sure they will mention it in the new CBA, the current deal expires in 2010. It remains to be seen if they make such an exception, but I think it is doubtful.

blzrfan · Post #6 » by **blzrfan** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:41 pm

This would be stupid, what if college pros started getting european offers? NBA players association would have a fit if this was a foreign player exception and it would never pass in the CBA.

Post #7 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:52 pm

blzrfan wrote:This would be stupid, what if college pros started getting european offers? NBA players association would have a fit if this was a foreign player exception and it would never pass in the CBA.

Then they get more money. The Players association is opposed to players making more money?

Blame Rasho · Post #8 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:54 pm

It isn't the players association that would have a problem... it is the owners...

Lakers_4_Life · Post #9 » by **Lakers_4_Life** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:58 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:It isn't the players association that would have a problem... it is the owners...

Wrong the players association would HATE it. Not only rookies getting big deals but FOREIGN rookies. The problem would definitely be on the players union side and they would fight it for sure.

Blame Rasho · Post #10 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:02 pm

The owners love getting cheap talent for 3/4 years... they don't want to pay what they are actually worth.

blzrfan · Post #11 » by **blzrfan** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:05 pm

Owners would hate it if it applied to all rookies, domestic and foreign who get European offers.

NBA PA would hate it if it applied to only foreign players.

It's a non-starter.

Post #12 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:09 pm

Domestic players could do it too, but would they play that game of chicken and end up in the Canary Islands for 3 years?

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #13 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:12 pm

Agents could easily make european offers magically appear.

Red Robot · Post #14 » by **Red Robot** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:30 pm

There definitely needs to be some way to close the loophole for domestic players seeking contracts overseas. Leaving it to a game of chicken isn't good enough. Some players may wind up in the Canary Islands but some will wind up on NBA teams with fat contracts. There also needs to be some way to prevent international players from exploiting this just to get paid more in the NBA.

I don't know, though. This whole thing has the potential to piss a lot of people off. The rookie scale was put in place more or less by veteran players to direct salary to themselves instead of young players. The player's association, run by veterans and not by rookies, doesn't want to see some rookies getting big contracts. Domestic rookies (and their agents) don't want to see international players drafted below them making more money.