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Lebron 30-40 million a year when he becomes a free agent?

I could seriously see this happening

Lebron would average 60 points/20 rebounds/40 assist in the Euroleague

so, that's 140 points a game at least?

ljp24 wrote:Lebron would average 60 points/20 rebounds/40 assist in the Euroleague

no he wouldnt.

ljp24 wrote:Lebron would average 60 points/20 rebounds/40 assist in the Euroleague

This is why OKC doesn't need a basketball team...

Anyway, I don't see why Real Madrid or Barcelona couldn't offer him that money.

houston911 wrote:Lebron 30-40 million a year when he becomes a free agent?

I could seriously see this happening

If the reports are true that Real Madrid was/is willing to offer Cristiano Ronaldo a 5-year, 75€ deal, they could easily offer something in that range for LeBron. (Based on the current exchange rate, that would be the equivalent of a 5-year, $200 million deal.)

There are only certain players you break the bank for, and LeBron James is one of them.

My guess is there will be several big teams willing to offer James something in the 5-year, 60€ million range (5-year, $160 million), plus all the extras (paid taxes, house, car, phone...etc). The total value of a deal like that would blow the best offer he could get in the NBA, about 5-years, $118 million if the cap is $65 million, out of the water.

Just look at the net values of the deals:

5-year, 60€ million = $96 million net
5-year, $118 million = $71 million net

If the Euro League can get its 16-team league together by 2010, there is no way of measuring the impact of having LeBron James as the face of your league. And there are at least 2-3 billionaire owners/rich clubs willing to throw obscene amounts of money his way.

Scalabrine wrote:

ljp24 wrote:Lebron would average 60 points/20 rebounds/40 assist in the Euroleague

no he wouldnt.

Blasphemy! LeBron so good he could go 1 on 5!

Why would they, though? When people like Anthony Parker and Trajan Langdon can win MVPs, when Milt Palacio wins Player of the Month, why do you need to overpay- by alot, to get them to leave the NBA- to get LeBron James or Chris Paul or someone? Isn't that overkill?

Say I can get Tyson Chandler to join my YMCA team for $50- I'm gonna kill everyone else just with him and 4 average (in that YMCA league) players. Why am I gonna pay $5,000 to have LeBron come and kill a little more?

SA37 wrote:

houston911 wrote:Lebron 30-40 million a year when he becomes a free agent?

I could seriously see this happening

If the reports are true that Real Madrid was/is willing to offer Cristiano Ronaldo a 5-year, 75€ deal, they could easily offer something in that range for LeBron. (Based on the current exchange rate, that would be the equivalent of a 5-year, $200 million deal.)

There are only certain players you break the bank for, and LeBron James is one of them.

My guess is there will be several big teams willing to offer James something in the 5-year, 50-60€ million range (5-year, $160 million), plus all the extras (paid house, car, phone...etc). The total value of a deal like that would blow the best offer he could get in the NBA, about 5-years, $118 million if the cap is $65 million, out of the water.

If the Euro League can get its 16-team league together by 2010, there is no way of measuring the impact of having LeBron James as the face of your league. And there are at least 2-3 billionaire owners/rich clubs willing to throw obscene amounts of money his way.

and if bron wants to be a billionaire, he could prolly do it quicker over there

Folks, let's remember we're talking about a league in which mediocre Anthony Parker was the 'superstar' and Saraunas Jasikevicius was the Chris Paul-like dominant point guard.

What's considered the best statistical-season in Euroleague history?

ljp24 wrote:Lebron would average 60 points/20 rebounds/40 assist in the Euroleague

LMAO

Dude get real. They have 40 minute games, the pace is WAY slower. Scores are way lower. Rebounds are MUCH harder to get because the shooting percentages and assists are scored DIFFERENTLY. 5 assists is like 10 in the NBA.

In Euroleague HISTORY the record assists average is something like 7 per game, the record rebound average is something like 11-12 a game and the record scoring average is something like 32 points per game. And before you say something stupid like "Yeah but those players sucked so Lebron would average 50 a game", the guy that averaged 32 points a game was Nick Galis - the greatest scorer in the history of FIBA basketball WORDLWIDE, which includes every NBA player that ever played for Team USA.

Juan Carlos Navarro led the Euroleague in scoring before he came to the NBA - 16.7 points per game, that led the league and he averaged 10.9 as a ROOKIE in the NBA.

I hope you are not serious with this post you made because it is beyond absurd if you believe it.

Bucky O'Hare wrote:Folks, let's remember we're talking about a league in which mediocre Anthony Parker was the 'superstar' and Saraunas Jasikevicius was the Chris Paul-like dominant point guard.

What's considered the best statistical-season in Euroleague history?

Do you even know the stats Parker and Jasikevicius put up in their season?
I'm guessing not, Euroleague awards are nothing like NBA awards.

A singel player never dominates in the euroleague.

Teams dominate, but never players.

ljp24 wrote:Lebron would average 60 points/20 rebounds/40 assist in the Euroleague

You tacked an extra "0" onto the assists there.

Alyosha12 wrote:

Bucky O'Hare wrote:Folks, let's remember we're talking about a league in which mediocre Anthony Parker was the 'superstar' and Saraunas Jasikevicius was the Chris Paul-like dominant point guard.

What's considered the best statistical-season in Euroleague history?

Do you even know the stats Parker and Jasikevicius put up in their season?
I'm guessing not, Euroleague awards are nothing like NBA awards.

I'm not quite following you. What are you getting at?

Farm Raid wrote:Why would they, though? When people like Anthony Parker and Trajan Langdon can win MVPs, when Milt Palacio wins Player of the Month, why do you need to overpay- by alot, to get them to leave the NBA- to get LeBron James or Chris Paul or someone? Isn't that overkill?

Say I can get Tyson Chandler to join my YMCA team for $50- I'm gonna kill everyone else just with him and 4 average (in that YMCA league) players. Why am I gonna pay $5,000 to have LeBron come and kill a little more?

The Euroleague is much better than when Anthony Parker played there. Sarunas Jasikevicius and Parker were the best players when they played there in that era together. Jasikevicius came back from the NBA and he is nothing but a role player in his big club Panathinaikos and that team failed to even make the playoffs. Everyone talks about how he is some great Euroleague player and that proves why the NBA is superior. yet Jasikevicius is a role player on a team that missed the Euroleague playoffs last year. And don't forget Sarunas was at something like 8 points 5 assists in like 20 minutes with the Pacers. In Euroleague he did like 12 points and 3 assists. So you decide what kind of huge difference there is.

And Trajan Langdon was a role player all those years in his team in CSKA. You had Theo Papaloukas, JR Holden, Ramunas Siskauskas, Matjaz Smodis all on his same team, and ALL considered better players than him, just on his own team. He won not an MVP award, he won the MVP of the final game. He was voted best player of ONE GAME. ONE GAME, not the MVP of the league. And Langdon was a rotation player for the Cavs before he went to Europe.

Anthony Parker averaged something like 14-16 points per game, something like that in a then much weaker Euroleague when he was the "MVP" of the league. Look at what he averages in the NBA with the Raptors.

There are so many myths amongst US NBA basketball fans about the level of competition in the Euroleague. I don't think NBA fans in the US in general have the slightest clue how good the Euroleague is these days.

Bucky O'Hare wrote:Folks, let's remember we're talking about a league in which mediocre Anthony Parker was the 'superstar' and Saraunas Jasikevicius was the Chris Paul-like dominant point guard.

Parker isn't a mediocre nba player, he was a legend in europe and probably one of the best americans to ever play there. In the nba, he's a good offensive player and a solid defensive player even tho he's 33. Theres no doubt in my mind that if he was younger and had more plays ran for him, he would average 15-20 ppg; there was a stretch of games last season when Bosh was out for 10 games where Parker was the focal point of the offense and average over 20 pts on excellent shooting percentages

Bucky O'Hare wrote:

Alyosha12 wrote:

Bucky O'Hare wrote:Folks, let's remember we're talking about a league in which mediocre Anthony Parker was the 'superstar' and Saraunas Jasikevicius was the Chris Paul-like dominant point guard.

What's considered the best statistical-season in Euroleague history?

Do you even know the stats Parker and Jasikevicius put up in their season?
I'm guessing not, Euroleague awards are nothing like NBA awards.

I'm not quite following you. What are you getting at?

I was trying to make a point, that NBA fans really don't understand what dominating in the euroleague means.

Its not about stats here, its about team success and stepping up in big games, thats called dominating here.

Stats here take a back seat to smart play efficiency and leadership.
Saraunas Jasikevicius was never the Chris Paul-like dominant point guard. He was a star in Europe for different reasons not because of stats he averaged 15 5 and thats it, he was never CP dominant, he dominated in team leadership making the right play in the crucial moment and helping his team be dominant.

You can't just pull parallels and say player X's stats in the NBA are 20 10 he would be a 35 15 player in Europe, because he would not, the game is totally different, the player might be a rhythm shooter and a shooter that need 5 shots to get hot doesn't do well in Europe, because any coach on a good team would bench his ass. Assists are not given out as generously as in the NBA so CP's stats or LeBrons stats would suffer greatly and would take a big hit.
Also the defense in Euroleague is much tighter the lane is packed and there is not defensive 3 second rul so a player like Wade would have 3/4 of his game taken away from him, he would absolutely suck in the euroleague, except on a team that runs a lot of fast breaks but teams like those are not common in europe.


So please don't just compare titles like Parkers MVP award or Langdons MVP award and say OMG players like those are MVPs, where as the MVP award in the euroleague is not really all that important, its the title in the end that counts. No one here even remembers who won the MVP award 5 years ago and no one really cares.

This is one case where endorsements really do make a difference. Guys like West could probably make more from endorsements in Europe but not LeBron. He's perhaps the most marketable athlete in all of North America outside of Tiger Woods. Say what you want about the value of the dollar and whatnot but the United States is still the #1 consumer market in the world and by a rather large margin over any country in Europe.

Farm Raid wrote:Why would they, though? When people like Anthony Parker and Trajan Langdon can win MVPs, when Milt Palacio wins Player of the Month, why do you need to overpay- by alot, to get them to leave the NBA- to get LeBron James or Chris Paul or someone? Isn't that overkill?

Say I can get Tyson Chandler to join my YMCA team for $50- I'm gonna kill everyone else just with him and 4 average (in that YMCA league) players. Why am I gonna pay $5,000 to have LeBron come and kill a little more?

Marketability. Basketball is a small, but growing sport over there. Lebron is a brand onto himself. Jordan made the NBA a global market, so maybe Lebron would be able to do something similar in Europe. He's certainly got more of a global presence than Parker or Langdon already.

If you could sell tickets to your YMCA game, I guarantee you'd pay Lebron $5000 dollars to play. Surely you can agree that there's money to be made for any team that signs Lebron?

Bucky O'Hare wrote:

Alyosha12 wrote:

Bucky O'Hare wrote:Folks, let's remember we're talking about a league in which mediocre Anthony Parker was the 'superstar' and Saraunas Jasikevicius was the Chris Paul-like dominant point guard.

What's considered the best statistical-season in Euroleague history?

Do you even know the stats Parker and Jasikevicius put up in their season?
I'm guessing not, Euroleague awards are nothing like NBA awards.

I'm not quite following you. What are you getting at?

The awards are first of all VOTED ON BY THE FANS. The fans decide 50% and the sports writers the other 50%. Secondly, the fans actually decide who the nominees are to even begin with. Third, the voting is done online and everyone is allowed to vote once per day.

Finally, the sports writers votes are based almost entirely on the placement of the player's team in the competition. If your team makes the final four of the Euroleague and you are a key player you will be first team all Euroleague. If your team makes the final game and you are a key player AND the fans like you, you just wrapped up the MVP award.

On the other hand, you could be 3 times better that year during the competition than the MVP was and not even be nominated if your team failed to make it past the top 8. That's basically the general gist of it. Euroleague awards are a 180 opposite of NBA awards. And stats are much, much different.

Papaloukas was 2nd team all Euroleague with something like 7 points per game and 3 assists per game. There is no such thing as one player being allowed to dominate a team stats wise. Coaches of big clubs will not allow it. They play a team game of motion offense (what Team USA has had trouble defending in national tournaments) and if any player tries to go against this and be a one on one, ball hogging, "I need my stats" guy he will be off the team in a top level club in the blink of an eye.

Coaches over there would never ever have a system something like the Houston Rockets have for example where two players dominate all the shots. Would never ever happen even if a big Euro team had such players.

It's the main reason why the best European national teams are killing Team USA with these motion offenses, because in the NBA they never have to defend that because the coaching is so far behind in the NBA. Everything is just 2 or 3 guys taking a bunch of shots.