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Hi everyone. I have heard about how Kobe and Jordan had legendary work ethics. Does anyone here know what their work out routnie/s were like? What were their workout regimens like? What did they do in the off-season?

Also, who has the greater work ethic between the two? I remember Phil Jackson during Kobe's MVP Press Conference saying he has never known someone who has worked as hard as Kobe. Is that true?

GOBB wrote:Also, who has the greater work ethic between the two?

This question is literally impossible to answer unless you've followed both of them around 24hrs/day throughout their career, and I'm sure nobody has done that. I guess some will say MJ had the better work ethic because he turned into a better player, but MJ also had far superior physical talents (MJ was faster, a better leaper, stronger, had bigger hands, etc.).

Do people just make accounts to start Kobe/Jordan threads?

Karl Malone>>>>>Everyone.

Ignore this idiot. He asks the same question as 'Heilige' on the ISH boards every **** day. I don't know why he thinks we have the answer to his questions.

ponder276 wrote:

GOBB wrote:Also, who has the greater work ethic between the two?

This question is literally impossible to answer unless you've followed both of them around 24hrs/day throughout their career, and I'm sure nobody has done that. I guess some will say MJ had the better work ethic because he turned into a better player, but MJ also had far superior physical talents (MJ was faster, a better leaper, stronger, had bigger hands, etc.).

At the least, do you have any idea what their workout routine/regimens were like. People constantly talk about how they have legendary work ethics, yet I have no idea what their regimens consist of. Has anyone here read or heard anything regarding this?

Also, should we believe Phil Jackson when he said that Kobe is the hardest worker he has ever seen?

Kobe's workout is:
The 666 routine stands for 6 hours a day, 6 days a week, 6 months of training.

IIRC he does cardio for 2 hours, basketball for 3 hours and weightlifting for 1 hour.
The weightlifting consists of this:

Day 1 & Day 4
Bench press
Lat pull-downs
Incline press
Military press
Abdominal crunches

Day 2 & Day 5
Lateral dumbbell raises
Bar dips
Tricep press-downs
Bicep curls
Abdominal crunches

Day 3 & Day 6
Back squats/Front squats
Leg curls
Leg extensions
Calf raises
Abdominal crunches

FAIL

GOBB wrote:

ponder276 wrote:

GOBB wrote:Also, who has the greater work ethic between the two?

This question is literally impossible to answer unless you've followed both of them around 24hrs/day throughout their career, and I'm sure nobody has done that. I guess some will say MJ had the better work ethic because he turned into a better player, but MJ also had far superior physical talents (MJ was faster, a better leaper, stronger, had bigger hands, etc.).

At the least, do you have any idea what their workout routine/regimens were like. People constantly talk about how they have legendary work ethics, yet I have no idea what their regimens consist of. Has anyone here read or heard anything regarding this?

Also, should we believe Phil Jackson when he said that Kobe is the hardest worker he has ever seen?

I'm not sure I remember Phil saying anything about Kobe's work ethic but I have seen statements from almost every Laker stating that Kobe ONLY likes to play basketball. I think it was Rick Fox and van Excel who said that most guys have hobbies like Golf, playing cards, going to clubs/bars, drinking, smoking weed etc but Kobe didn't. The only thing he ever liked was basketball.

Phil said Karl Malone was the hardest worker ever. One time Phil called his house in the off season and his wife said Karl wasn't home because he went for a bike ride. Phil asked when Karl would be back and his wife said "4 hours"! Keep in mind Malone was 40 at the time.

What he did at 40 was ridiculous. I'll never forget the defense he played on Yao, Duncan, and Garnett in the playoffs that year.

http://inside.nikebasketball.com/news/w ... _kobe2.jpg

Interesting.

They're both up there. It's impossible to tell because you can't really see the finished results, but each player can attribute his success to a large extent to his work ethic.

Phil Jackson said Kobe works harder than Jordan. I can't find the quote anymore because it's been years. Maybe someone else will.

To make up for the smaller hands, Kobe worked on his jumpshot much more so than Jordan.

Bgil wrote:I'm not sure I remember Phil saying anything about Kobe's work ethic but I have seen statements from almost every Laker stating that Kobe ONLY likes to play basketball. I think it was Rick Fox and van Excel who said that most guys have hobbies like Golf, playing cards, going to clubs/bars, drinking, smoking weed etc but Kobe didn't. The only thing he ever liked was basketball.

Phil said Karl Malone was the hardest worker ever. One time Phil called his house in the off season and his wife said Karl wasn't home because he went for a bike ride. Phil asked when Karl would be back and his wife said "4 hours"! Keep in mind Malone was 40 at the time.

What he did at 40 was ridiculous. I'll never forget the defense he played on Yao, Duncan, and Garnett in the playoffs that year.

During Kobe's MVP Press Conference Phil Jackson said he's never known anyone to work as hard as Kobe Bryant.

Karl Malone

Patterns wrote:Phil Jackson said Kobe works harder than Jordan. I can't find the quote anymore because it's been years. Maybe someone else will.

To make up for the smaller hands, Kobe worked on his jumpshot much more so than Jordan.

Is it true that right after the Lakers got eliminated in 1997 by the Utah Jazz(Kobe shooting airballs), Kobe went right back to work in the gym the very next day. I heard he made thousands of jumpers. If that is true, how can that not be considered overtraining. Making thousands of jumpers a day; wouldn't that be too much? You wouldn't be giving time for your muscles to rest, right?

Bgil wrote:http://inside.nikebasketball.com/news/wp-content/themes/inside_bb/images/wallpaper/073_nike_bg05_kobe2.jpg

Interesting.

What year was that from?

Tex Winter said so too, but does it really matter (true or not)? MJ still worked incredibly hard on his game. His work ethic combined with his natural athletic talent is what made him one of the greatest players to have ever played in the NBA, if not the greatest.

I don't really care if one of them works 4 minutes more per day or whatever. It's really an impossible question for anyone on this board to answer, because we just don't know.. The important thing is that they both had legendary work ethics, which is an example everyone in the NBA should try and follow.

Kobe had some workout going called the 666 like mentioned earlier in this thread that you can Google. You can also see if you can find an episode of "Behind the Glory" where they featured some insight on Kobe's workouts. I'm sure you can find something on Jordan's workout routines too if you look around on the internet.

tkb wrote:Tex Winter said so too, but does it really matter (true or not)? MJ still worked incredibly hard on his game. His work ethic combined with his natural athletic talent is what made him one of the greatest players to have ever played in the NBA, if not the greatest.

I don't really care if one of them works 4 minutes more per day or whatever. It's really an impossible question for anyone on this board to answer, because we just don't know.. The important thing is that they both had legendary work ethics, which is an example everyone in the NBA should try and follow.

Kobe had some workout going called the 666 like mentioned earlier in this thread that you can Google. You can also see if you can find an episode of "Behind the Glory" where they featured some insight on Kobe's workouts. I'm sure you can find something on Jordan's workout routines too if you look around on the internet.

Do you have a link to Tex Winter saying that?

GOBB wrote:

Patterns wrote:Phil Jackson said Kobe works harder than Jordan. I can't find the quote anymore because it's been years. Maybe someone else will.

To make up for the smaller hands, Kobe worked on his jumpshot much more so than Jordan.

Is it true that right after the Lakers got eliminated in 1997 by the Utah Jazz(Kobe shooting airballs), Kobe went right back to work in the gym the very next day. I heard he made thousands of jumpers. If that is true, how can that not be considered overtraining. Making thousands of jumpers a day; wouldn't that be too much? You wouldn't be giving time for your muscles to rest, right?

Not if you're conditioned enough to do it... or just mentally sick like that

Caron Bulter said he tried to workout with Kobe but quickly came to the conclusion that Kobe was crazy because he would MAKE 1,000 jumpers a day. Said it took somewhere close to 2,500 shots everyday. IIRC it takes him something like 6 hours.

According the Mike Bibby MADE 1,000 a day too. All different types of shots against all different types of defense.

Here's a interview with Mens Fitness magazine.

http://www.mensfitness.com/exclusives/206