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Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 11:43 am
by cdcastellon1
"Another article about Ben Gordon has surfaced. According to greek website contra.gr the CSKA Moscow has made an offer to the NBA superstar of 5.5 million dollars per year whereas Gordon seems to want more a bit more, around 7 million dollars to match the contract the Childress got from Olympiakos.

The jamaican shooting guard was born in London and that gives him a dual nationality, so he has both jamaican and british nationalities and he is also a member of the British National Team. Gordon rejected an offer earlier this year from the Chicago Bulls for 6.4 million dollars. Although if you take into consideration the NBA taxation system that would leave him less than 4 million dollars in net profit.

The article says that the whole matter will have ended by Wednesday and Ben Gordon will give his final answer. He was the leading scorer of the Chicago Bulls last season averaging 18.6 points 3.1 rebounds and 3 assists in 72 games."


http://thehoop.blogspot.com/ (english link)
http://www.contra.gr/Basketball/Russia/210824.html (greek link)

5.5 million dollars net in europe equal to around 9 million dollars in the USA gross. Tomorrow more news.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 12:08 pm
by SA37
I am curious as to what Chicago has been offering. Last I read, Gordon wanted a deal around $65-70 million, which he just isn't going to get from any NBA team. I thought the Bulls were offering about $45-50 million for 5 years, which I think is still overpaying for him, but for a guy who is looked at as a 6th man by most teams in the league, that is a great deal.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:00 pm
by boogydown
Gordon is an idiot

Stay with the Bulls and play with his teammate Deng for 6 years 59 million a year, get high paid endorsements, and have a long term future.
or
Go overseas, where you have no guaranteed contract, sign for LESS than you'd be making now, and get little to no high paid endorsements with no long term future.

Good choice, but this is clearly him trying to speed things up and get the Bulls to ramp up the price.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:22 pm
by theTHIEF
honestly, I hope he does take off (sorry Chicago)...This guy is being flat out ridiculous, and Chicago doesnt need a player with this type of mentality around...he's already made it up in his mind that he's done there anyhow...peace out son...don't forget to pack a thick jacket...

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:24 pm
by RJM
S&T for Vince Carter. I'm calling it.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:43 pm
by SA37
Anyone who gives Ben Gordon 6-years, $59 million should require a mental evaluation. Ben Gordon obviously needs one, as well.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:47 pm
by supergallinari
didn't chicago offer him 6 years at ~5.5 mil net?

does ben think 1 year in europe will get him better than what chicago is offering?

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:49 pm
by supergallinari
Iceburg Slim wrote:S&T for Vince Carter. I'm calling it.


would chicago do it?

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:55 pm
by CBS7
SA37 wrote:I am curious as to what Chicago has been offering. Last I read, Gordon wanted a deal around $65-70 million, which he just isn't going to get from any NBA team. I thought the Bulls were offering about $45-50 million for 5 years, which I think is still overpaying for him, but for a guy who is looked at as a 6th man by most teams in the league, that is a great deal.


Bulls offered 6/59.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 2:22 pm
by Optimus_Steel
And to think that last year he turned down a much better offer from the Bulls. Idiot.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 2:38 pm
by Hangtime84
theTHIEF wrote:honestly, I hope he does take off (sorry Chicago)...This guy is being flat out ridiculous, and Chicago doesnt need a player with this type of mentality around...he's already made it up in his mind that he's done there anyhow...peace out son...


+1
Hate to see him go, but if this makes him happy o well. At least we got the number one pick this year.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:13 pm
by Sedale Threatt
Never liked Gordon much either. He puts up decent numbers, but in the end, that's all they are -- numbers. If he wants to go play in Russia, goodbye and good luck.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:14 pm
by boogydown
It also gives Chicago 10 more million to spend next season with Gooden expiring as well, Hughes in 2010. Even if Chicago makes a move or not (IE: Hinrich or Nocioni for Cap), they could have 30 mil to spend in 2010, or 20 mil to spend in 2009. Besides Gordon maybe great on offense, but he can't compare to Hinrich D plus Hinrich has a better FG% outside shot. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:34 pm
by Scalabrine
cdcastellon1 wrote:
5.5 million dollars net in europe equal to around 9 million dollars in the USA gross. Tomorrow more news.


I dont see why so many people keep converting the money they make overseas to American dollars. If a player signs with a team overseas they will be living overseas and therefor buying houses with there currency (in this case Euros I believe). Now smart players will find a way to invest most of that money for when (if) they come back to the States but they will still be spending Euros for how ever long they are in Europe for so why convert it back to dollars?

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:46 pm
by rockybalboa11
bg's game has never really impressed me

he's a chucker who does nothing else for the most part

won't be sad to see him leave the league

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:47 pm
by triplet1984
He probably thinks, because he's the leading scorer, he should be the 'star' of the team - including salary. But his PPG is generally lower than most leading scorers. He's more of a Rip Hamilton type than a Kobe type.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:57 pm
by Optimus_Steel
Da-Met wrote:He probably thinks, because he's the leading scorer, he should be the 'star' of the team - including salary. But his PPG is generally lower than most leading scorers. He's more of a Rip Hamilton type than a Kobe type.


He is a jump shooting undersized SG. His contract demands are nowhere near the actual market demand for that type of player. He needs to realize that.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:59 pm
by Ming Kong!
Yea 10 million a year for him was more than fair. Either way 7 million tax free is a little more than what he was going to be making per year. He will be treated as a superstar in Russia too, since he'll more than likely be the best player in the league. Best of luck to him. Perhaps he improves his game, and makes a comeback in the future.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:39 pm
by SA37
Scalabrine wrote:
I dont see why so many people keep converting the money they make overseas to American dollars. If a player signs with a team overseas they will be living overseas and therefor buying houses with there currency (in this case Euros I believe). Now smart players will find a way to invest most of that money for when (if) they come back to the States but they will still be spending Euros for how ever long they are in Europe for so why convert it back to dollars?


Most of the better players overseas get their houses paid for.

Just to give you an example, Sam Clancy, former USC player, plays in Spain and he gets his salary plus his house, cell phone bill, and car paid for, as well as plane tickets so his friends and family can visit.

Re: Ben Gordon negotiating with CSKA MOSCOW

Posted: Tue Sep 2, 2008 4:45 pm
by Manocad
prorl wrote:And to think that last year he turned down a much better offer from the Bulls. Idiot.

Let's watch and see...he may just manage to do it again.