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Bird said at the start of last year's training camp that the Pacers hadn't had a leader since Reggie Miller.

"I understood he was talking about me when he made comments like that," O'Neal said. "There's not many players that would want to stay in a situation like that."

That's true. Nobody in their right mind, even a bad GM like Bird, would call O'Neal a leader during the last three seasons.

Biggest emo ever. He needs to retire.

from what I've seen of JO so far in Toronto...he seems to be a pretty good leader

JO is pissed he's playing with a bunch of softie's..

Gonna be a very good game tonight between Toronto and Indiana

How the hell is he crying? He's not speaking out of his ass...clearly a media reporter/writer asked him questions regarding the situation and he's being straight about it.

Him and Larry never had a good relationship, or much at all. The end.

This deserves or warrants discussions because?

Raps4evr wrote:This deserves or warrants discussions because?

bored in OKC

KG phoned him and gave a little talk about accountability

PHILA wrote:JO is pissed he's playing with a bunch of softie's..

man I am agreeing to what you are saying

Not really crying but... he was asked a question and he gave a response..

you didn't like it so now you create a thread.... life goes on

Pancho_Pantera wrote:Biggest emo ever. He needs to retire.

you're an idiot

where the **** does he even complain?

if you actually listen to the guy in real life you notice he actually talks quite intelligent and thoughtful

something you dumbass need.

Volcano wrote:from what I've seen of JO so far in Toronto...he seems to be a pretty good leader

Not trying to be a smarta** but how has he been a pretty good leader in Toronto? When they traded for JO, I expected Toronto to be one of the top teams in the East however with a 9-12 record, not even in the playoffs if playoffs started today. I understand it may take some time to mesh so that could be a part of it.

guys, relax.

let's keep bashing KG not JO. it's not like Toronto deserves any attention

LeeBlaze wrote:

Volcano wrote:from what I've seen of JO so far in Toronto...he seems to be a pretty good leader

Not trying to be a smarta** but how has he been a pretty good leader in Toronto? When they traded for JO, I expected Toronto to be one of the top teams in the East however with a 9-12 record, not even in the playoffs if playoffs started today. I understand it may take some time to mesh so that could be a part of it.

Not trying to be a smarta** but you seem to have answered your own question.

We knew that it was a risk taking a player with a history of injuries and who is getting a bit past his prime. He's had struggles, tweaked his knee and sprained his ankle but he's also had some great games too. Mostly he's been a vocal leader, he's saying all the right things and does so in a well spoken and humble manner while being a tough guy on the court.

For whatever reason we haven't been winning but I can point to a dozen other factors that have hurt us besides any problem with JO.

PHILA wrote:JO is pissed he's playing with a bunch of softie's..

He fits right in.

jo is pissed because he sucks so much

RockTHECasbah wrote:jo is pissed because he sucks so much

What are you, 8 years old?

JO ain't a very vocal leader. I don't really think he's a leader at all actually.

He's an okay guy to have when he's your 2nd or 3rd best player.

He leads by example more than by words.