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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:35 am
by devv83
I was asked the other day what I think of the referees this season. My answer: I hate the referees.

I was only kidding, kind of.

Lately, the refs have treated me and my teammates OK, but there was a point earlier this season when they were acting like they were bigger than the game. Joey Crawford, especially. That guy. You can't even ask him a question; he won't even look at you. Did you see what happened a few years ago when he challenged Tim Duncan, of all people, to a fight during a game? Ridiculous. The guy is a hothead, and players around the league know that whenever he refs a game there is gonna be some drama. More foul calls, more technicals, more delays. If you're watching a game and see Joey Crawford as one of the refs, expect controversy. It's a shame but it's true.

I always say that you can tell the difference between a young ref and a veteran guy. Generally speaking, players like young refs better because they don't tend to favor coaches or individual players, they just call the game as they see it. The problem is they are constantly being overruled by older refs. They'll make the right call and then an older ref will come running in and say, "Are you sure that's the right call?" Then the young guy will be like, "Well, what did you see?" They don't want to show the older guy up so they defer to him, and he's most likely biased. That's right, you'd think that the veteran referees would be more mature and balanced about their calls, but really they just carry more baggage onto the court.

Of course, the refs, young and old, are always getting worked over during the game by players and coaches. We played Charlotte earlier this season and Larry Brown completely controlled the whistle. The same thing happens with Gregg Popovich, Phil Jackson and George Karl -- they're considered the greatest coaches in the league so it's easy for them to get the refs to do their bidding. I guess it's no surprise that refs favor winners. Let's say you're a great team and you're on a fast break and someone fouls you. A ref won't call it right away, he'll let you dunk, then call the foul so you get the three-point play. But if you're on a bad team they'll call a ticky-tack foul right away. No dunk for you.

Me, I always try to chat up the younger refs during the game. I'm a pretty calm guy, so I usually start with "Excuse me, sir. Can you explain to me what just happened?" Then I'll ask him to check the call at halftime because I think he missed it. My favorite response -- and this is what they usually say -- is, "That wasn't my call. Ask him." I get that a lot. Maybe I'm not one of the refs' favorites like some guys in the league. For instance, Kevin Durant has impressed me with his ability to get a whistle at such a young age. He had 15 free throws the other night! LeBron always gets calls, obviously. Kobe gets fewer than you'd think because he travels all the time. But the guy who gets the most calls by far is Dwyane Wade, even though he carries the ball a lot and is always falling down. The refs like his personality, I guess. He never met a ref he didn't like.

Chris Paul gets away with the most talking. There have been times when I've seen him curse a ref out like, "What the f--- are you looking at you ---hole?! Learn how to call a f------ game!!" The ref will be like, "My bad, I'll get you next time." What?!! If that had been me I'd have been T'd up and thrown out. You can't curse at a ref without getting a technical or at least a stern warning. Unless you're Chris Paul, who can say whatever he wants.


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Who is it battier? Deron Williams ? lol

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:38 am
by Jimmy76
deron and paul are friends

doesn't seem like a Battier thing to say

hmmmmmmmmm

Rondo?

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:43 am
by TiMVP
who was buddy that got racked by Chris Paul? Is he even in the NBA?

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:43 am
by devv83
Jimmy76 wrote:deron and paul are friends

doesn't seem like a Battier thing to say

hmmmmmmmmm

Rondo?



No rondo. the entire celtics squad is still pissed at Durant lol and this person said Durant impressed them

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:45 am
by Jimmy76
who would dislike Paul and Wade?

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:46 am
by glowsticks
Joe Johnson?

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:47 am
by devv83
Jimmy76 wrote:who would dislike Paul and Wade?



And kobe

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:51 am
by Jimmy76
"We played Charlotte earlier this season and Larry Brown completely controlled the whistle."

what teams have gotten a ton of foul calls against them playing the bobcats?

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 4:53 am
by cheapmaket001
and jams

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 5:21 am
by nicnac215
Dwight Howard?

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 5:30 am
by MaceCase
mindframe wrote:Joe Johnson?

Sadly, JJ is not that articulate yet alone would ever talk to the press unless he had to. I would believe Jamal Crawford though.

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 5:35 am
by Bruh Man
nicnac215 wrote:Dwight Howard?

Most likely, Just read the article in Dwight's voice :D

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 5:46 am
by Tim_Hardawayy
Its obviously a scrub or at least someone not very good because he goes out of his way to point out what other stars get away with but explains he couldn't do the same.

Also probably a guy on a middle of the pack team, because he said the refs were harsh to him earlier in the season but have softened up lately.

I'm going to say Brad Miller.

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 6:02 am
by HuggyBear1688
Im thinking a knick player, maybe chris duhon?

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 6:50 am
by jvcn15
Sounds like Matt Barnes actually.

He's actually pretty well spoken and articulate. He plays very hard but is actually a pretty calm personality. The person here seems to be a defensive player who has to guard the best perimeter players. He probably respects Kobe more than Wade since he was able to play Kobe more physical. He doesn't mention Van Gundy when he name drops coaches. He would know the difference between being on a good team vs being on a bad team with his fast break example.

Also, the whole "I wouldve been t'd up and thrown out", suggests he may have a bad image to the refs. Which is why I'd guess Barnes.

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 7:16 am
by bicatmit
Interesting read. I feel like the player has to be on a Western Conference team given the way he said "we played Charlotte earlier this season." It sounds like he doesn't play Charlotte often (as he would in the East) and that maybe that game was the only time he faced Charlotte this year.

Looking at the Bobcats' schedule, the only remaining games they have against Western Conference teams are vs. Houston and New Orleans. Given what he said about Chris Paul, it appears as if we can rule out the guy being on the Hornets. As another poster point out, the guy sounds like he's a defensive-minded wing who has had to guard the likes of Kobe, Wade, Lebron and Durant. He also sounds pretty intelligent. Maybe it is Shane Battier?

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 7:24 am
by Legendary 33
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Its obviously a scrub or at least someone not very good because he goes out of his way to point out what other stars get away with but explains he couldn't do the same.

Also probably a guy on a middle of the pack team, because he said the refs were harsh to him earlier in the season but have softened up lately.

I'm going to say Brad Miller.


I honestly think it is Brad Miller lol..But I think the stuff he says makes sense. The kind of stuff he describes is a clear double standard in the NBA and IMO makes the game very hard to watch because it's very obvious star players get away with more

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 7:39 am
by Mamba Venom
Assuming blank player didnt list anyone on his squad to throw us off his trail, and that he didnt bash his teammates/coaches he is not on the

Lakers
Cavs
Bobcats
Heat
Thunder
Hornets
Spurs

And because he talks about guards/SFs so much he probably isnt a PF or a C. So that narrows it down. I want to get the reporter who broke this story drunk as a skunk and find out who said it. It was said very well.

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 8:42 am
by Puertorique
If this is real, it's Most likely Ron Artest. I like Ron Ron and he is a honest talker, this looks like it may have been him, especially when describing his approach to the Refs.

Re: Blank NBA Player

Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2010 9:11 am
by Bskey
Puertorique wrote:If this is real, it's Most likely Ron Artest. I like Ron Ron and he is a honest talker, this looks like it may have been him, especially when describing his approach to the Refs.


Ron would definitely not have trouble mentioning Kobe, and he certainly would be T'd up for cussing at a ref. I don't think it's him though. A lot of it just doesn't sound like stuff he would say.