How should 2020 Anthony Davis be viewed?

[OhayoKD]

I think outside of his hot shooting streak he gets very overrated on both ends. Certainly a borderline top 5 player but to me his complete lack of playmaking or ball handling ability keeps him out of the best player conversation.

No idea what's happened to him after the bubble, hard to think of a similar situation where a player has dropped off this hard in recent history.

do you really need to have playmaking/ball handling to be an all-time peak if you offer all-time defense and kd+ scoring

[RCM88x]

I think outside of his hot shooting streak he gets very overrated on both ends. Certainly a borderline top 5 player but to me his complete lack of playmaking or ball handling ability keeps him out of the best player conversation.

No idea what's happened to him after the bubble, hard to think of a similar situation where a player has dropped off this hard in recent history.

do you really need to have playmaking/ball handling to be an all-time peak if you offer all-time defense and kd+ scoring

Well perhaps not. But I don't think his defense was all-time level and KD level scoring is certainly not elite enough to offset his playmaking level. Perhaps if he was an elite/all-time level self creator it would, but that wasn't the case here at all.

[JordansBulls]

I think a lot has to do with playing in LA. Much easier to do stuff in bubble with no fans around than actually playing in front of the LA faithful. Lakers haven't won a series since 2011 in front of the LA faithful.

[PaulieWal]

The season part you can count, the bubble part no so much. Fans have to be present for it to be legit.

Do you still consider yourself a Virgin or did your mothers attendance make the act legit?

Yeah, remotely not acceptable. Warned.

[PaulieWal]

The season part you can count, the bubble part no so much. Fans have to be present for it to be legit.

Do you still consider yourself a Virgin or did your mothers attendance make the act legit?

Excuse me his mother was with me

This is a tasteless comment, not sure why you felt the need to chime in with this. Warned.

[PaulieWal]

I think a lot has to do with playing in LA. Much easier to do stuff in bubble with no fans around than actually playing in front of the LA faithful. Lakers haven't won a series since 2011 in front of the LA faithful.

Good on you for reporting the posts, the mod team has taken action but swearing and backseat modding while you report someone else is warning worthy on its own. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Slava]

Even if you discount the ridiculously hot shooting, which was unsustainable in 2020, his previous playoff runs were not far off either. In 2018, he was good for 30/13/2 over 9 games on 58% TS, granted 4 of those came against Portland.

[OhayoKD]

I think outside of his hot shooting streak he gets very overrated on both ends. Certainly a borderline top 5 player but to me his complete lack of playmaking or ball handling ability keeps him out of the best player conversation.

No idea what's happened to him after the bubble, hard to think of a similar situation where a player has dropped off this hard in recent history.

do you really need to have playmaking/ball handling to be an all-time peak if you offer all-time defense and kd+ scoring

Well perhaps not. But I don't think his defense was all-time level and KD level scoring is certainly not elite enough to offset his playmaking level. Perhaps if he was an elite/all-time level self creator it would, but that wasn't the case here at all.

I mean, the 2020 lakers were one of the best playoff defenses ever and ad was far and away the most valuable defender on the team.

vWhat do you even consider an all-time peak then?

[RCM88x]

do you really need to have playmaking/ball handling to be an all-time peak if you offer all-time defense and kd+ scoring

Well perhaps not. But I don't think his defense was all-time level and KD level scoring is certainly not elite enough to offset his playmaking level. Perhaps if he was an elite/all-time level self creator it would, but that wasn't the case here at all.

I mean, the 2020 lakers were one of the best playoff defenses ever and ad was far and away the most valuable defender on the team.

vWhat do you even consider an all-time peak then?

They were like a -2.5 dRTG in the playoffs? That's not anything historically significant. I also disagree he was far and away the most valuable defender on the team, there's no data to support that.

[OhayoKD]

Well perhaps not. But I don't think his defense was all-time level and KD level scoring is certainly not elite enough to offset his playmaking level. Perhaps if he was an elite/all-time level self creator it would, but that wasn't the case here at all.

I mean, the 2020 lakers were one of the best playoff defenses ever and ad was far and away the most valuable defender on the team.

vWhat do you even consider an all-time peak then?

They were like a -2.5 dRTG in the playoffs? That's not anything historically significant. I also disagree he was far and away the most valuable defender on the team, there's no data to support that.

they were -7 in the playoffs. And pretty much all the data has their defense falling off a cliff without davis

[RCM88x]

I mean, the 2020 lakers were one of the best playoff defenses ever and ad was far and away the most valuable defender on the team.

vWhat do you even consider an all-time peak then?

They were like a -2.5 dRTG in the playoffs? That's not anything historically significant. I also disagree he was far and away the most valuable defender on the team, there's no data to support that.

they were -7 in the playoffs. And pretty much all the data has their defense falling off a cliff without davis

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from.