capfan33 wrote:One thing I realized from earlier in regards to Frosty's statement that Duncan wasn't a lock-down man defender. Independent of whether that's true or not help defense, especially for bigs, is much more important than man-defense and Duncan generally excelled at this. So I disagree with the framing of that statement.
I never argued otherwise. I'm saying you can look at Kareem's scoring individually or as part of the teams offense as a whole. I think his individual offense stands on it's own accord as he was one of the best ever.
On defense you generally look at either lock down defenders or team defenders. Duncan clearly fits in the second camp and is fantastic at this. Once you go the team argument route you have to explain why when a guy is considered the "anchor" that the boat doesn't drift when it is un-anchored. It's pretty hard to dismiss.
I'm not saying he wasn't a great defender. I'm saying he would have to be other worldly to account for the difference in offense, and I just don't see that.
It's unfortunate others are framing this as a 'hater' argument, it feels like the Kobe fans from his prime.