Who Are The Most Statistically Impactful Players in NBA History? (WOWY Type Discussion)

[AEnigma]

Ah yeah, guess the Bucks do end up killing it. But hey, .314 on the Royals, there you go.

Incredible. Great call!!

And I think Royals Oscar is by rights the largest number you will find, so that kind-of highlights how goofy that .369 claim was. :lol

1. True. Mea culpa re: .369.

2. Who else in history might have the biggest impact besides Steph, LeBron, and Oscar?

David robinson pre duncan

Also Jerry West, pre-Boston Garnett, and 2000-12 Nash.

[OhayoKD]

Ah yeah, guess the Bucks do end up killing it. But hey, .314 on the Royals, there you go.

Incredible. Great call!!

And I think Royals Oscar is by rights the largest number you will find, so that kind-of highlights how goofy that .369 claim was. :lol

1. True. Mea culpa re: .369.

2. Who else in history might have the biggest impact besides Steph, LeBron, and Oscar?

David robinson pre duncan

as 70's has pointed out, when you compare like for like samples, kareem looks bettah than drob

[ty 4191]

as 70's has pointed out, when you compare like for like samples, kareem looks bettah than drob

Please specify and define what "like for like samples" means, exactly. I'll run the numbers. Thanks!

[OhayoKD]

as 70's has pointed out, when you compare like for like samples, kareem looks bettah than drob

Please specify and define what "like for like samples" means, exactly. I'll run the numbers. Thanks!

Here you go:

No, Kareem missing 17 games is the reason why. Do you think it's unreasonable explaination?

Not as much as the Spurs winning 59 in 96 with Robinson and only 20 in 97 without him.

38-19 With Kareem isn't great, not bad, but not elite winning.

Well, technically Robinson indeed had better WOWY than Kareem in these seasons:

1974/75 Bucks with Kareem: 35-30, 44 wins pace
1974/75 Bucks without Kareem: 3-14, 15 wins pace

1995/96 Spurs with Robinson: 59-23, 59 wins pace
1996/97 Spurs without Robinson: 20-52, 20 wins pace

The difference is that 1997 Spurs tanked hard to get Duncan in the draft, while Bucks tried to make the playoffs. I wouldn't compare these two situations at all.

A better comparison would be 1992 Spurs, when Robinson missed 14 games:

1991/92 Spurs with Robinson: 42-26, 51 wins pace
1991/92 Spurs without Robinson: 5-9, 30 wins pace

Now, you can see that Kareem actually played with worse team than Admiral. Besides, comparing him to Robinson isn't anything bad - in terms of RS lifting Robinson is more impressive than Jordan himself after all. The difference is that Kareem upped his production and impact in postseason, while Robinson collapsed.