Top 10 PF seasons, since 1990

SHAQ32 · Post #1 » by **SHAQ32** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 1:14 am

You can only choose a player once.

The reason I chose 1990 is that that was the beginning of one of the golden ages at the position, with Larry Johnson, Derrick Coleman, Shawn Kemp, etc., all coming into the league within a few seasons of each other.

ronnymac2 · Post #2 » by **ronnymac2** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 1:38 am

Kevin Garnett - 2004
Dirk Nowitzki - 2009
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2022
Anthony Davis - 2020
Charles Barkley - 1993
Karl Malone - 1992
Blake Griffin - 2014
Paul Gasol - 2009
Dennis Rodman - 1996
Chris Webber - 2001

HM:

Chris Bosh - 2013
LaMarcus Aldridge - 2014
Shawn Kemp - 1996
Rasheed Wallace 2001

I do consider Tim Duncan to be a C. If you forced my hand or convinced me he was a PF, his 2003 season would probably make the top of my list.

I also consider Draymond Green a C. He'd likely be in the 6-7 range.

AEnigma · Post #3 » by **AEnigma** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 2:23 am

Agree with the general order and selected years of the recent peaks project, swapping Davis and Dirk at 5 and 4 and then Malone and Barkley at 7 and 6.

So starting the list at #9, I would probably look to Rasheed (2002 if I have to pick a year). Great defender, had a decent scoring game as long as he was not asked to be anything more than a co-lead. My #10 would be 1992 Nance on a similar note. Could swap those two, but will give Rasheed the edge for being a little bit more modern in his willingness to space the floor.

The-Power · Post #4 » by **The-Power** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 2:31 am

ronnymac2 wrote:I also consider Draymond Green a C. He'd likely be in the 6-7 range.

What makes him a Center more than a PF in your opinion?

Time for Change · Post #5 » by **Time for Change** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 2:40 am

Based on BBref position for the season and accounting for regular season and playoffs:

13 LeBron
03 Duncan
21 Giannis
93 Barkley
04 Garnett
11 Dirk
17 Durant
16 Draymond
98 Malone
20 Davis

Narigo · Post #6 » by **Narigo** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 3:26 am

2003 Tom Duncan
2004 Kevin Garnett
1997 Karl Malone
1990 Charles Barkley
2006 Dirk Nowitzki
2021 Giannis
2020 Anthony Davis
2006 Elton Brand
2009 Pau Gasol
2014 Kevin Love

Not in order

rk2023 · Post #7 » by **rk2023** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:51 am

13 James
03 Duncan
04 Garnett
22 Antetokounmpo
84 Bird
20 Davis
11 Nowitzki
90 Barkley
98 Malone
96 Kemp

Homer38 · Post #8 » by **Homer38** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 12:48 pm

ronnymac2 wrote:Kevin Garnett - 2004
Dirk Nowitzki - 2009
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2022
Anthony Davis - 2020
Charles Barkley - 1993
Karl Malone - 1992
Blake Griffin - 2014
Paul Gasol - 2009
Dennis Rodman - 1996
Chris Webber - 2001

HM:

Chris Bosh - 2013
LaMarcus Aldridge - 2014
Shawn Kemp - 1996
Rasheed Wallace 2001

I do consider Tim Duncan to be a C. If you forced my hand or convinced me he was a PF, his 2003 season would probably make the top of my list.

I also consider Draymond Green a C. He'd likely be in the 6-7 range.

David Robinson was the spurs center in the first 6 years of Duncan.Bosh was the heat center in 2013 too

70sFan · Post #9 » by **70sFan** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 1:29 pm

ronnymac2 wrote:Kevin Garnett - 2004
Dirk Nowitzki - 2009
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2022
Anthony Davis - 2020
Charles Barkley - 1993
Karl Malone - 1992
Blake Griffin - 2014
Paul Gasol - 2009
Dennis Rodman - 1996
Chris Webber - 2001

HM:

Chris Bosh - 2013
LaMarcus Aldridge - 2014
Shawn Kemp - 1996
Rasheed Wallace 2001

I do consider Tim Duncan to be a C. If you forced my hand or convinced me he was a PF, his 2003 season would probably make the top of my list.

I also consider Draymond Green a C. He'd likely be in the 6-7 range.

Good list overall, would you consider Elton Brand here though?

migya · Post #10 » by **migya** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 1:48 pm

70sFan wrote:
ronnymac2 wrote:Kevin Garnett - 2004
Dirk Nowitzki - 2009
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2022
Anthony Davis - 2020
Charles Barkley - 1993
Karl Malone - 1992
Blake Griffin - 2014
Paul Gasol - 2009
Dennis Rodman - 1996
Chris Webber - 2001

HM:

Chris Bosh - 2013
LaMarcus Aldridge - 2014
Shawn Kemp - 1996
Rasheed Wallace 2001

I do consider Tim Duncan to be a C. If you forced my hand or convinced me he was a PF, his 2003 season would probably make the top of my list.

I also consider Draymond Green a C. He'd likely be in the 6-7 range.

Good list overall, would you consider Elton Brand here though?

Well mentioned. I'd have him ahead of Griffin on that list.

Colbinii · Post #11 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:15 pm

I really hate positions but I will go by what I considered them during the season (I feel like KG, Dirk and Draymond are all optimized at Center in the current era, as are many others here)

1) 2013 LeBron James
2) 2004 Kevin Garnett
3) 2020 Anthony Davis
4) 2011 Dirk Nowitzki
5) 2017 Kevin Durant
6) 2022 Giannis Antentokoumpo
7) 1993 Charles Barkley
9) 2016 Draymond Green
9) 1992 Karl Malone
10) 2006 Elton Brand

ronnymac2 · Post #12 » by **ronnymac2** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:23 pm

70sFan wrote:
ronnymac2 wrote:Kevin Garnett - 2004
Dirk Nowitzki - 2009
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 2022
Anthony Davis - 2020
Charles Barkley - 1993
Karl Malone - 1992
Blake Griffin - 2014
Paul Gasol - 2009
Dennis Rodman - 1996
Chris Webber - 2001

HM:

Chris Bosh - 2013
LaMarcus Aldridge - 2014
Shawn Kemp - 1996
Rasheed Wallace 2001

I do consider Tim Duncan to be a C. If you forced my hand or convinced me he was a PF, his 2003 season would probably make the top of my list.

I also consider Draymond Green a C. He'd likely be in the 6-7 range.

Good list overall, would you consider Elton Brand here though?

Good call on Brand, totally slipped my mind. His 2006 season was tremendous. He'd be in range of C-Web, maybe even better. I also forgot about Amar'e, but to be honest, he played C, which means Marion at PF should at least be an HM as well.

ronnymac2 · Post #13 » by **ronnymac2** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:26 pm

The-Power wrote:
ronnymac2 wrote:I also consider Draymond Green a C. He'd likely be in the 6-7 range.

What makes him a Center more than a PF in your opinion?

2016 (and beyond) GSW's net-rating was record-setting with lineups where Draymond was at C.

You watch him more though. What do you consider him, PF or C?

Post #14 » by **penbeast0** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:54 pm

2016 Draymond played most of his RS minutes (80% according to B-R.com) next to Bogut or Ezelie (or even Speights) who would be the center. They did use the death lineup in a lot of clutch situations but sparingly otherwise to keep teams from adjusting to it.

Ambrose · Post #15 » by **Ambrose** » Tue Dec 6, 2022 6:55 pm

I'm surprised people are so low on Giannis. Depending on your classification of Duncan he should be in contention for #1.

migya · Post #16 » by **migya** » Fri Dec 9, 2022 4:03 am

1. 2003 Duncan
2. 1998 Malone
3. 2004 Garnett
4. 1990 Barkley
5. 2006 Nowitzki
6. 2021 Giannis
7. 2020 Davis
8. 2006 Brand
9. 1996 Kemp
10. 2016 Draymond

dygaction · Post #17 » by **dygaction** » Fri Dec 9, 2022 5:39 am

Would not count the same person twice and not counting LBJ as a pf
1. 2003 Duncan
2. 2011 Nowitzki
3. 2021 Giannis
4. 1998 Malone
5. 1990 Barkley
6. 2004 Garnett
7. 2020 Davis

SpreeS · Post #18 » by **SpreeS** » Fri Dec 9, 2022 10:48 am

1. Duncan 2003
2. Giannis 2021
3. Garnett 2004
4. Dirk 2011
5. Davis 2020
6. Barkley 1990/1993
7. Malone 1998
8. Gasol 08-10
9. Green 2016
10. Kemp 1996 Griffin 2014 Webber 2001 (need time to go deeper into stats)

HM

J.O'Neal
Brand
Bosch
Aldridge
Love
Rodman

ceoofkobefans · Post #19 » by **ceoofkobefans** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:38 am

1. 2003 Tim Duncan
2. 2004 Kevin Garnett
3. 2022 Giannis Antetokoumnpo
4. 2011 Dirk
5. 2020 Anthony Davis
6. 1998(?) Karl Malone
7. 1993 Charles Barkley
8. 2016 Draymond Green
9. 1969 Willis Reed
10. 1988 Kevin McHale

Colbinii · Post #20 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:30 pm

ceoofkobefans wrote:1. 2003 Tim Duncan
2. 2004 Kevin Garnett
3. 2022 Giannis Antetokoumnpo
4. 2011 Dirk
5. 2020 Anthony Davis
6. 1998(?) Karl Malone
7. 1993 Charles Barkley
8. 2016 Draymond Green
9. 1969 Willis Reed
10. 1988 Kevin McHale

1969 and 1988 are before 1990 :lol: