Where does lebron rank in the league right now

[Gooner]

They are overall 22-26. OKC is better, Utah is better, and those teams don't have a lot of talent.

They are 18-20 with James though. Excluding the beginning of the season (when they went 2-8 with James), they are 16-12 in the last two months with James playing - even though they don't have Davis.

It's fair to say he's not among the best player in the league now, but to say he has "no impact" is just wrong.

Also, you are the one saying that it's Curry league now - Warriors are 23-24 right now. How is that possible given your criteria?

What makes that fair?

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

[70sFan]

They are overall 22-26. OKC is better, Utah is better, and those teams don't have a lot of talent.

They are 18-20 with James though. Excluding the beginning of the season (when they went 2-8 with James), they are 16-12 in the last two months with James playing - even though they don't have Davis.

It's fair to say he's not among the best player in the league now, but to say he has "no impact" is just wrong.

Also, you are the one saying that it's Curry league now - Warriors are 23-24 right now. How is that possible given your criteria?

Warriors are in a hangover from the title. I'm not worried about them. Lakers were coming off a catastrophic season and they are supposed to be hungry. This season they are a little bit better, but still under 50%.

So you are not worried that Warriors are out of the playoffs after half of the season? You are very optimistic then.

[70sFan]

They are 18-20 with James though. Excluding the beginning of the season (when they went 2-8 with James), they are 16-12 in the last two months with James playing - even though they don't have Davis.

It's fair to say he's not among the best player in the league now, but to say he has "no impact" is just wrong.

Also, you are the one saying that it's Curry league now - Warriors are 23-24 right now. How is that possible given your criteria?

What makes that fair?

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

Except he does elevate his team - which can be seen by anything quantifible and unquantifible.

[70sFan]

They are overall 22-26. OKC is better, Utah is better, and those teams don't have a lot of talent.

They are 18-20 with James though. Excluding the beginning of the season (when they went 2-8 with James), they are 16-12 in the last two months with James playing - even though they don't have Davis.

It's fair to say he's not among the best player in the league now, but to say he has "no impact" is just wrong.

Also, you are the one saying that it's Curry league now - Warriors are 23-24 right now. How is that possible given your criteria?

What makes that fair?

I mean, is it unfair to say that he's worse than Jokic, Giannis, Curry (when healthy) and Doncic? I don't think so.

[Homer38]

They are 18-20 with James though. Excluding the beginning of the season (when they went 2-8 with James), they are 16-12 in the last two months with James playing - even though they don't have Davis.

It's fair to say he's not among the best player in the league now, but to say he has "no impact" is just wrong.

Also, you are the one saying that it's Curry league now - Warriors are 23-24 right now. How is that possible given your criteria?

What makes that fair?

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

Read the post 52 of this thread.....

[1993Playoffs]

They are 18-20 with James though. Excluding the beginning of the season (when they went 2-8 with James), they are 16-12 in the last two months with James playing - even though they don't have Davis.

It's fair to say he's not among the best player in the league now, but to say he has "no impact" is just wrong.

Also, you are the one saying that it's Curry league now - Warriors are 23-24 right now. How is that possible given your criteria?

What makes that fair?

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

He literally does have massive impact when he plays. Luka is also a poor defender with bad 3pt shooting as well

[70sFan]

What makes that fair?

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

He literally does have massive impact when he plays. Luka is also a poor defender with bad 3pt shooting as well

Luka isn't a bad three point shooter though.

[parapooper]

He is 4th in rpm for the whole season icluding his injury-handicapped start, basically tied at 8.x with Jokic and Doncic (behind Tatum at 9.7).
In december he was at 4.3 though, so he must have been around 12 since then - by far the best in the league.

His +/- went from negative after the injury phase to >+10, so it must have been +25ish the last 20 games

That's peak GOAT-lister territory impact from a 38-year old.

And still you have posters going on and on about empty stats.
More like the opposite - the guy averaged >30 points at age 21 and at age 38 , but averaged 27.4 points in the 17 years between that.
Obviously he could have averaged 30+ in those 17 years if he wanted to stat-pad. If he had taken an extra 4 shots/game like Bulls MJ did (not stat-padding) he would have averaged 32 points and would have passed Kareem years ago.

[McBubbles]

He is 4th in rpm for the whole season icluding his injury-handicapped start, basically tied at 8.x with Jokic and Doncic (behind Tatum at 9.7).
In december he was at 4.3 though, so he must have been around 12 since then - by far the best in the league.

His +/- went from negative after the injury phase to >+10, so it must have been +25ish the last 20 games

That's peak GOAT-lister territory impact from a 38-year old.

And still you have posters going on and on about empty stats.
More like the opposite - the guy averaged >30 points at age 21 and at age 38 , but averaged 27.4 points in the 17 years between that.
Obviously he could have averaged 30+ in those 17 years if he wanted to stat-pad. If he had taken an extra 4 shots/game like Bulls MJ did (not stat-padding) he would have averaged 32 points and would have passed Kareem years ago.

Fr. LeBron has three 30 point seasons in his first 7 years in the league, one in which he averaged 30/8/9 (and 32/8/11 when Mo Williams went out on a stretch in where they went 11-1) yet anytime he averages a measly 25/6/6 he's stat padding lol.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Healthy AD still better tho btw

[Gooner]

What makes that fair?

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

Read the post 52 of this thread.....

It's too long.

[Jaivl]

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

Read the post 52 of this thread.....

It's too long.

He is not an elite troll anymore. His game has no impact right now. He is just chucking one-liners and scoring easy And1s around the General Board in the flow of the threads. He is much slower than he used to be. He couldn't even get by MyUniBroDavis on an argument and got blocked by him in this game. His posting has been bad this year also.

[Homer38]

The fact that he is slow, poor 3 point shooter, plays no defense and doesn't elevate his team.

Read the post 52 of this thread.....

It's too long.

and too many facts....