Which franchise has the best 15 man roster minutes evenly distributed.

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Re: Which franchise has the best 15 man roster minutes evenly distributed. 

Post#21 » by GeorgeMarcus » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:24 am

Sonics/Thunder

C: Sikma, Adams, Ibaka
PF: Kemp, Haywood, Lewis
SF: Durant, PG, Schrempf
SG: Allen, SGA, Harden
PG: Russ, Payton, CP3

Sikma
Kemp
Schrempf
SGA
Payton

Adams
Lewis
PG
Allen
Russ

Ibaka
Haywood
Durant
Harden
CP3
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Re: Which franchise has the best 15 man roster minutes evenly distributed. 

Post#22 » by GeorgeMarcus » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:50 am

Magic

C: Shaq, Dwight, Vuc
PF: Lewis, Grant, Gordon
SF: Hill, Scott, Turk
SG: TMac, Nick Anderson, Vince
PG: Penny, Nelson, Armstrong

Vuc
Grant
Hill
TMac
Jameer

Shaq
Lewis
Turk
Vince
Armstrong

Dwight
Gordon
Scott
Anderson
Penny
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Re: Which franchise has the best 15 man roster minutes evenly distributed. 

Post#23 » by The-Power » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:55 am

penbeast0 wrote:I misunderstood this, I was thinking you were asking if we took today's rosters and gave the 11-15 men on the roster equal time with the starters and 6-10 guys, who has the best roster.

And, I was despairing because although I enjoy watching basketball, I couldn't tell you the 11-15 guys on any team other than my own.

That's actually an interesting (nerdy) question. Each current team, 15 players, every player has to play exactly 16 minutes. Who wins the title? Maybe a thread for the off-season. :D
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Post#24 » by HeartBreakKid » Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:11 am

KobesScarf wrote:Am I crazy for thinking the Pistons might have a more complete and balanced team than the Lakers and Celtics with every player restricted to 16 minutes

Laimbeer
Rodman
Hill
Hamilton
Isiah

B.Wallace
R.Wallace
Dantley
Dumars
Bing

Lainer
Debusschere
Aguirre
Houston
Billups


The Pistons would get destroyed by the Lakers and Celtics. Not even a contest with the Lakers.

The Piston's advantages in their two championship eras was that they could field 4-5 all-star/all-defense players so there wasn't a need for an MVP guy (it's more difficult to get 5 all-stars in the NBA than an MVP caliber player by a lot).

Their advantage was quantity of good players which would be nullified heavily in this format. You're comparing 16 minutes of Hamilton and Aguirre to 16 minutes of Ray Allen and Havilcek. Dennis Rodman against Kevin Garnett, Ben Wallace against Bill Russell, Joe Dumars against Jayson Tatum. These guys are not the same caliber of player at all.

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Post#25 » by GeorgeMarcus » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:32 pm

Bulls

C: Gilmore, Noah, Pau
PF: Rodman, Grant, Deng
SF: Pippen, Butler, Kukoc
SG: MJ, DeRozan, LaVine
PG: Rose, Van Lier, Harper

Pau
Rodman
Kukoc
MJ
Harper

Gilmore
Grant
Butler
LaVine
Van Lier

Noah
Deng
Pippen
DeRozan
Rose

Fit (especially spacing) was difficult in this one
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Re: Which franchise has the best 15 man roster minutes evenly distributed. 

Post#26 » by GeorgeMarcus » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:55 pm

Grizzlies

C: Marc, Pau, Adams
PF: Randolph, JJJ, Abdur Rahim
SF: Prince, Battier, Brooks
SG: Bane, Allen, Miller
PG: Ja, Conley, J Will

Marc
Randolph
Prince
Allen
Conley

Pau
JJJ
Brooks
Bane
J Will

Adams
Abdur Rahim
Battier
Miller
Ja
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Post#27 » by Colbinii » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:37 pm

The-Power wrote:
penbeast0 wrote:I misunderstood this, I was thinking you were asking if we took today's rosters and gave the 11-15 men on the roster equal time with the starters and 6-10 guys, who has the best roster.

And, I was despairing because although I enjoy watching basketball, I couldn't tell you the 11-15 guys on any team other than my own.

That's actually an interesting (nerdy) question. Each current team, 15 players, every player has to play exactly 16 minutes. Who wins the title? Maybe a thread for the off-season. :D


Each player at their peak or current level?
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Post#28 » by Cavsfansince84 » Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:15 pm

I'm confused as to whether this thread is using the version of each player that played for each team or just any version of the player.
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Post#29 » by GeorgeMarcus » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:27 pm

Cavsfansince84 wrote:I'm confused as to whether this thread is using the version of each player that played for each team or just any version of the player.


Idk the OP's intentions but I assumed while they were actually with the team
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Post#30 » by GeorgeMarcus » Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:59 pm

Pelicans

C: Boogie, PJ Brown, Chandler
PF: AD, Zion, West
SF: Peja, Ingram, Mashburn
SG: Jrue, McCollum, Wesley
PG: CP3, Baron, Ball

Chandler
AD
Ingram
Wesley
Ball

Brown
Zion
Peja
Jrue
Baron

Boogie
West
Mashburn
McCollum
CP3
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Re: Which franchise has the best 15 man roster minutes evenly distributed. 

Post#31 » by GeorgeMarcus » Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:20 pm

Knicks

C: Reed, Ewing, Chandler
PF: DeBusschere, Porzingis, Oakley
SF: Melo, King, Gallo
SG: Sprewell, Houston, JR Smith
PG: Frazier, Brunson, Jackson

Reed
DeBusschere
Gallo
Sprewell
Brunson

Ewing
Oakley
King
Houston
Jackson

Chandler
Porzingis
Melo
JR
Frazier
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Post#32 » by penbeast0 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:36 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Knicks

C: Reed, Ewing, Chandler
PF: DeBusschere, Porzingis, Oakley
SF: Melo, King, Gallo
SG: Sprewell, Houston, JR Smith
PG: Frazier, Brunson, Jackson

Reed
DeBusschere
Gallo
Sprewell
Brunson

Ewing
Oakley
King
Houston
Jackson

Chandler
Porzingis
Melo
JR
Frazier


I'd take Carwright, Gallatin, Sears, Monroe, and Richardson (off the top of my head, there are probably some I've missed) over Chandler, Porzingis, Gallo, JR, and Brunson.
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Post#33 » by -Luke- » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:39 pm

Dallas could maybe run with

C: Chandler, Bradley, Donaldson
PF: Dirk, Porzingis, Vincent
SF: Finley, Aguirre, Marion
SG: Blackman, Harper, Terry
PG: Nash, Kidd, Doncic

Chandler
Dirk
Finley
Harper
Nash

Bradley
Vincent
Aguirre
Blackman
Kidd

Donaldson
Porzingis
Marion
Terry
Doncic

You could throw in one of the Howards (Josh and Juwan), Dantley, ...
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Post#34 » by GeorgeMarcus » Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:03 am

penbeast0 wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:Knicks

C: Reed, Ewing, Chandler
PF: DeBusschere, Porzingis, Oakley
SF: Melo, King, Gallo
SG: Sprewell, Houston, JR Smith
PG: Frazier, Brunson, Jackson

Reed
DeBusschere
Gallo
Sprewell
Brunson

Ewing
Oakley
King
Houston
Jackson

Chandler
Porzingis
Melo
JR
Frazier


I'd take Carwright, Gallatin, Sears, Monroe, and Richardson (off the top of my head, there are probably some I've missed) over Chandler, Porzingis, Gallo, JR, and Brunson.


Good call on Cartwright/Monroe, I kind of forgot they existed. Would place them over Chandler and Smith. I'm unqualified to comment on Gallatin/Sears because I know nothing beyond their bbref pages. A bit surprised you would go with Richardson but I see the argument.
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Post#35 » by penbeast0 » Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:57 am

Haven't seen enough from Brunson as a Knick to make him one of the franchise's top 3 PGs yet. Could go with someone like Charlie Ward instead but if we are looking for peaks, Richardson was impressive before he burned himself out.

As for JR Smith, I'd go for John Starks or Dick Barnett over him too, probably a few others.
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Post#36 » by KobesScarf » Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:47 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Bulls

C: Gilmore, Noah, Pau
PF: Rodman, Grant, Deng
SF: Pippen, Butler, Kukoc
SG: MJ, DeRozan, LaVine
PG: Rose, Van Lier, Harper

Pau
Rodman
Kukoc
MJ
Harper

Gilmore
Grant
Butler
LaVine
Van Lier

Noah
Deng
Pippen
DeRozan
Rose

Fit (especially spacing) was difficult in this one

Ben Wallace on the Bulls >>> Pau on the Bulls IMO

Actually wait a minute did you just ignore the Bulls whole 70s run?

Jerry Sloan>>>>>Lavine
Chet Walker>>>>>>>>>>>Deng and Kukoc
Bob Love>Grant and Bulls Pau
Reggie Theus>>>>>>>Harper and Lavine

Oh and Ben Gordon>>>>>Harper too
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Post#37 » by -Luke- » Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:18 am

I think GeorgeMarcus hasn't done Miami yet. With a little cheating (moving LeBron to PG):

C: Mourning, Adebayo, Shaq
PF: Bosh, Haslem, Marion
SF: Rice, Butler (Jimmy), Bowen
SG: Wade, old Ray Allen, Eddie Jones
PG: Hardaway, LeBron, Jason Williams

Adebayo
Marion
Rice
Allen
LeBron

Shaq
Bosh
Bowen
Wade
Williams

Mourning
Haslem
Butler
Jones
Hardaway
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Post#38 » by -Luke- » Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:25 am

Rockets would have a nice team.

C: Olajuwon, Moses, Yao
PF: Hayes, Thorpe, Barkley
SF: Pippen, Tomjanovich, Reid
SG: Harden, Drexler, T-Mac
PG: Murphy, CP3, Francis

HM: Sampson, Howard, Marin, Maxwell, Kenny Smith, Horry and probably others I'm forgetting about.

Olajuwon
Thorpe
Pippen
T-Mac
Francis

Moses
Barkley
Tomjanovich
Drexler
CP3

Yao
Hayes
Reid
Harden
Murphy
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Post#39 » by penbeast0 » Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:09 pm

KobesScarf wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:Bulls

C: Gilmore, Noah, Pau
PF: Rodman, Grant, Deng
SF: Pippen, Butler, Kukoc
SG: MJ, DeRozan, LaVine
PG: Rose, Van Lier, Harper

Pau
Rodman
Kukoc
MJ
Harper

Gilmore
Grant
Butler
LaVine
Van Lier

Noah
Deng
Pippen
DeRozan
Rose

Fit (especially spacing) was difficult in this one

Ben Wallace on the Bulls >>> Pau on the Bulls IMO

Actually wait a minute did you just ignore the Bulls whole 70s run?

Jerry Sloan>>>>>Lavine
Chet Walker>>>>>>>>>>>Deng and Kukoc
Bob Love>Grant and Bulls Pau
Reggie Theus>>>>>>>Harper and Lavine

Oh and Ben Gordon>>>>>Harper too


Sloan may be better than Lavine, depending on your needs. His offense was never great but his defense was outstanding.
Walker I agree.
Love was closer to a less efficient Deng than he was to Horace Grant who was a terrific and underrated player.
And Theus was the definition of empty stats, I was never impressed with him compared to his numbers nor did he put much effort in on defense (not that Lavine is much of a defender either). Not sure who I would pick for a scoring guard between the two, next to Michael Jordan, I'd rather have Harper.
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Post#40 » by GeorgeMarcus » Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:25 pm

TWolves:

C: KAT, Gobert, Jefferson
PF: KG, Love, Covington
SF: Butler, Szczerbiak, Wiggins
SG: Edwards, Sprewell, D'Lo
PG: Cassell, Brandon, Conley

Jefferson
Garnett
Szczerbak
D'Lo
Cassell

KAT
Covington
Wiggins
Edwards
Brandon

Gobert
Love
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Sprewell
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