It's a remarkable article I found on Twitter and decided to share it here, as I'm sure a lot of people will enjoy it:
Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Moderators: Clyde Frazier, Doctor MJ, trex_8063, penbeast0, PaulieWal
Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 29,870
- And1: 25,193
- Joined: Aug 11, 2015
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- Starter
- Posts: 2,266
- And1: 2,272
- Joined: Jul 01, 2022
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Absolutely tremendous share, thank you for this (plan to read further later on). WiltStats is a great follow for any historian in learning/aspiration. Overall speaking, I find the usage of newspaper / live testimonial to sometimes be a helpful piece in evaluating players from before the merger where there is more scarcity in film & correspondingly more of a need to fill in information gaps through assuming.
Long live Willis Reed and may he rest easy <3.
Long live Willis Reed and may he rest easy <3.
Mogspan wrote:I think they see the super rare combo of high IQ with freakish athleticism and overrate the former a bit, kind of like a hot girl who is rather articulate being thought of as “super smart.” I don’t know kind of a weird analogy, but you catch my drift.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 228
- And1: 250
- Joined: Aug 08, 2011
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Excellent, thanks!
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 874
- And1: 751
- Joined: May 21, 2022
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Really great, I always love seeing players actually break down their opponents tactically as opposed to the generic platitudes they often give in interviews. I'm assuming you've seen Nate Thurmond's quotes on guarding Kareem and Wilt, similarly fascinating.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- Senior Mod - NBA Player Comparisons
- Posts: 30,310
- And1: 9,873
- Joined: Aug 14, 2004
- Location: South Florida
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Interesting that he says Hayes was the best shooting big he faced, rather than Cowens or Lanier. When Hayes gets criticized statistically, it's generally for the opposite, poor and mechanical shooting of that turnaround.
The other really interesting thing I saw was his comments about Bellamy's driving ability. Other interviews I've seen about him talk about how Bellamy would put you on his butt and post you but Reed talks about him driving to the basket. Makes me want to watch more Bellamy games from before he went to Atlanta where I saw him the most.
Thank you for posting this!
The other really interesting thing I saw was his comments about Bellamy's driving ability. Other interviews I've seen about him talk about how Bellamy would put you on his butt and post you but Reed talks about him driving to the basket. Makes me want to watch more Bellamy games from before he went to Atlanta where I saw him the most.
Thank you for posting this!
“Most people use statistics like a drunk man uses a lamppost; more for support than illumination,” Andrew Lang.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 29,870
- And1: 25,193
- Joined: Aug 11, 2015
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
penbeast0 wrote:Interesting that he says Hayes was the best shooting big he faced, rather than Cowens or Lanier. When Hayes gets criticized statistically, it's generally for the opposite, poor and mechanical shooting of that turnaround.
The other really interesting thing I saw was his comments about Bellamy's driving ability. Other interviews I've seen about him talk about how Bellamy would put you on his butt and post you but Reed talks about him driving to the basket. Makes me want to watch more Bellamy games from before he went to Atlanta where I saw him the most.
Thank you for posting this!
I have heard quite a few accounts regarding Bellamy's driving game and he seemed to use it in footage I've seen. He wasn't your typical low post guy from the old era, he operated outside quite a bit as well. Truly a fascinating player, even if he never managed to get a considerable success.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
- wojoaderge
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,094
- And1: 1,678
- Joined: Jul 27, 2015
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
penbeast0 wrote:Interesting that he says Hayes was the best shooting big he faced, rather than Cowens or Lanier. When Hayes gets criticized statistically, it's generally for the opposite, poor and mechanical shooting of that turnaround.
Remember, this is at the beginning of Lanier and Cowens' 2nd seasons
"Coach, why don't you just relax? We're not good enough to beat the Lakers. We've had a great year, why don't you just relax and cool down?"
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 29,870
- And1: 25,193
- Joined: Aug 11, 2015
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
wojoaderge wrote:penbeast0 wrote:Interesting that he says Hayes was the best shooting big he faced, rather than Cowens or Lanier. When Hayes gets criticized statistically, it's generally for the opposite, poor and mechanical shooting of that turnaround.
Remember, this is at the beginning of Lanier and Cowens' 2nd seasons
Good point, Lanier and Cowens were still basically after their rookie seasons. Reed gave them a lot of credit in fact.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
- -Luke-
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,071
- And1: 6,481
- Joined: Feb 21, 2021
- Contact:
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Pretty amazing that from the first MVP voting in 1956 until Larry Bird in 1984, only three MVP awards (Cousy, Oscar, Dr. J) went to non centers or non C/PF combos.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-
- Senior Mod - NBA Player Comparisons
- Posts: 30,310
- And1: 9,873
- Joined: Aug 14, 2004
- Location: South Florida
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
-Luke- wrote:Pretty amazing that from the first MVP voting in 1956 until Larry Bird in 1984, only three MVP awards (Cousy, Oscar, Dr. J) went to non centers or non C/PF combos.
Not a shock when you realize that centers were arguably the most important players on the floor on BOTH defense and offense in that era. Other than Rick Barry's title in 75, Bad Boy Pistons were the first team to win a title without a HOF center (though some, like Willis Reed/Jerry Lucas in NY weren't playing at a HOF level anymore).
“Most people use statistics like a drunk man uses a lamppost; more for support than illumination,” Andrew Lang.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
- prolific passer
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,149
- And1: 1,459
- Joined: Mar 11, 2009
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Those Celtics teams of the 70s just followed Havlicek's lead and stayed in constant motion and tired their opponents out.
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
- ronnymac2
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,004
- And1: 5,074
- Joined: Apr 11, 2008
-
Re: Willis Reed breaks down styles of his best opponents
Really cool find. He gives props to Thurmond and Unseld as the best defenders in the game, in a league with Chamberlain, Alcindor, Cowens, and Hayes. That's awesome that big Bob Lanier came through Willis's camp for young guys. Never knew that.
RIP to the captain of the New York Knicks.
RIP to the captain of the New York Knicks.
Pay no mind to the battles you've won
It'll take a lot more than rage and muscle
Open your heart and hands, my son
Or you'll never make it over the river
It'll take a lot more than rage and muscle
Open your heart and hands, my son
Or you'll never make it over the river