Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison

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Re: Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison 

Post#21 » by 70sFan » Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:23 am

mstat13shuh wrote:To further illustrate my above point in a similar context, consider this for a moment as well:

Back when NBATV still broadcast older games in the early-mid 2000s, it did not broadcast any of Wilt's truly dominating performances, only game 5 of the 1972 NBA Finals. I wondered for awhile whether this was mere coincidence, or if there was a legitimate behind-the-scenes purpose to the programming being what it was.

My instincts were correct. It was a legitimate purpose by the league office.

Someone affiliated with NBA Archives-Entertainment(sorry no names here)essentially confirmed this to me recently via email that many in the NBA Headquarters, for lack of a better description has a particular disdain for Wilton Norman Chamberlain.

This is particularly troubling when you also consider that there is unbelievably more footage available from the Russell-Chamberlain era of basketball than most established folks will even begin to divulge.

NBA:

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Bi&^*#$
A&%*()#$


(Apologies for those directly affiliated with the league office who DO intend to unearth the 100% truth about something like this to similar degree as myself, much love to them, nevertheless, I must call them as I see fit. This treasure chest can only remain deadbolted for so long.)

It's not about Wilt though - they are unwilling to publish anything from that era at all.
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Re: Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison 

Post#22 » by penbeast0 » Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:06 pm

mstat13shuh wrote:
penbeast0 wrote:On the other hand, I remember the 76ers incredible stat guy, Harvey Pollack, used to keep track of home and away team fouls and publish them in his stat sheets. The NBA made him stop because every referee in the league the year I saw them favored the home teams (some by a large extent) except Mendy Rudolph. As the Celtics were generally the home team in the playoffs, maybe the Sixers should have asked for him.

Incredible, but then again, for me, not so incredible.

Do you have a link for this that I could study for further reference?

Thanks.


I remember the NBA tried to make sure those numbers were taken off any official sites and stats and ordered Pollack to stop so no, I'm not sure where to find them today. They were too embarrassing for the league.
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Re: Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison 

Post#23 » by mstat13shuh » Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:49 pm

70sFan wrote:
mstat13shuh wrote:To further illustrate my above point in a similar context, consider this for a moment as well:

Back when NBATV still broadcast older games in the early-mid 2000s, it did not broadcast any of Wilt's truly dominating performances, only game 5 of the 1972 NBA Finals. I wondered for awhile whether this was mere coincidence, or if there was a legitimate behind-the-scenes purpose to the programming being what it was.

My instincts were correct. It was a legitimate purpose by the league office.

Someone affiliated with NBA Archives-Entertainment(sorry no names here)essentially confirmed this to me recently via email that many in the NBA Headquarters, for lack of a better description has a particular disdain for Wilton Norman Chamberlain.

This is particularly troubling when you also consider that there is unbelievably more footage available from the Russell-Chamberlain era of basketball than most established folks will even begin to divulge.

NBA:

Naive
Bi&^*#$
A&%*()#$


(Apologies for those directly affiliated with the league office who DO intend to unearth the 100% truth about something like this to similar degree as myself, much love to them, nevertheless, I must call them as I see fit. This treasure chest can only remain deadbolted for so long.)

It's not about Wilt though - they are unwilling to publish anything from that era at all.
Smh right now it seems, anyway.
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Re: Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison 

Post#24 » by mstat13shuh » Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:50 pm

penbeast0 wrote:
mstat13shuh wrote:
penbeast0 wrote:On the other hand, I remember the 76ers incredible stat guy, Harvey Pollack, used to keep track of home and away team fouls and publish them in his stat sheets. The NBA made him stop because every referee in the league the year I saw them favored the home teams (some by a large extent) except Mendy Rudolph. As the Celtics were generally the home team in the playoffs, maybe the Sixers should have asked for him.

Incredible, but then again, for me, not so incredible.

Do you have a link for this that I could study for further reference?

Thanks.


I remember the NBA tried to make sure those numbers were taken off any official sites and stats and ordered Pollack to stop so no, I'm not sure where to find them today. They were too embarrassing for the league.

Oh ok, well thanks anyway.
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Re: Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison 

Post#25 » by mstat13shuh » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:33 am

Here's something else I will present here that just came to me spiritually that might not be exclusively associated with the usual Wilt-Russell comparisons; but only because they're affiliated with Wilt & Bill Russell consistently missing practices, yet one player usually got the benefit of the doubt, while the other got hung out to dry over the Empire State Building by most of the media.

As most of you know by now:

Following the final 76ers 1966 playoff game vs Boston, when Wilt Chamberlain scored 46 points, grabbed 34 rebounds,
but missed a then-NBA playoff record 17 free throws in an 8 points loss to the Celtics, Wilt was asked by Phi. Eve. Bulletin sportswriter Joe McGinnis(who later became famous for publishing a book "Selling of the President")"Wilt, you missed 17 free throws today. Don't you think you could've used a little practice between game 4 & 5?"

Wilt "all the freakin practice in the world aint gonna help me at the line(was also quoted in the Boston Globe that he thought Boston's press had hurt them, which the turnover stats, in fairness to Wilt, DO clearly indicate)."

Wilt also insisted he was tired & needed rest between games 4 & 5, which he obviously got & probably needed anyway.

Wilt & Joe continued back n forth until Wilt attacked Joe, then was held back by Chet Walker & Billy Cunningham.

In the regular season, Wilt "officially" averaged exactly 47.3MPG(actually it was about 47.36, but that's another matter).
Not to mention ALSO leading the league, for the 4th & final time in his career in:

PPG
RPG
BPG
FG%


Now fast forward to the conclusion of the 76ers 2002 playoffs.

Allen Iverson attends a media session originally intending to discussing an entirely different matter(sorry, don't recall what)but instead, lol, as we all well know by now, ends up "talking about PRACTICE" lmdao smh 100%

Not about the GAME, mind you, lol, but about PRACTICE lmdao.


For AT LEAST A HALF HOUR OR SO!!

In the regular season, AI averaged about 43.7MPG, a career best
(would've been 44.03, but last game he played exactly half the contest)

Not to mention also leading the league in:

PPG
SPG

Now onto the number 36:

The Iverson 2002 "practice" media session came 36 years after Wilt's confrontation with a local Philly sportswriter about allegedly not practicing his free throws between games 4 & 5 of the Celtics-76ers playoff series.

Wilt Chamberlain was born in calendar year 1936.

AI: 43.7MPG in 2001-02 RS
Wilt: 47.3MPG in 1965-66 RS(again, actually it was about 47.36, wait a second here, 47.Thirty-SIX! No coincidence)

47.3-
43.7
3.6MPG difference.

Three point six!


Additionally:

43.7: exact opposite of:
47.3!


Lol now I realize, in conclusion, that most might view this a mere numerical & chronological coincidence.

But for someone like me, it's anything but.

Because someone like me know The Most High not only works in mysterious ways, but in numbers as well, if you study Scripture well enough, which I'm certain at least as few of you on here have done.
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Re: Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison 

Post#26 » by mstat13shuh » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:14 am

Other additional notes I forgot to include in the previous post:

It was 36 years between the media's criticism of Wilt & A.I. for missing practices,
AND Iverson was 36 years old himself during the '02 "practice" media rants.


Coincidences?

To most, maybe.
But not to me at all.
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Re: Wilt vs Russell year by year comparison 

Post#27 » by mstat13shuh » Sun Apr 2, 2023 12:56 am

Before anyone responds to my last response, I need to make a slight, but necessary, correction.

As you all can see in my above post, I stated that Iverson was 36 years old during the 2002 practice media rant.

I was wrong & sincerely apologize about this oversight.

However, he was 26 years & about 10 months old, so:

26+10=36

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