Prime- Hedo Turkoglu or Joe Ingles?

McBubbles · Post #2 » by **McBubbles** » Thu Apr 6, 2023 7:24 am

Not thought about this deeply at all but I assume Turkoglu on account of my memory of him having better box score stats than Ingles

I know they're both good shooters and good ball handlers, with Ingles being a solid team defender. I think Turkoglu was the more capable scorer though.

Amare_1_Knicks · Post #3 » by **Amare_1_Knicks** » Thu Apr 6, 2023 12:41 pm

Hedo without having to think too hard about this. He peaked at an all star level, as the number 2 option and primary offensive catalyst on a very good Magic team for a few years. Never felt that Ingles really approached that level of play.

ShotCreator · Post #4 » by **ShotCreator** » Thu Apr 6, 2023 1:55 pm

Hedo. Could scale his role up better and more versatile on defense.

Ingles was really good at running pull-up guys off the 3P line at his defensive best, but when facing pure downhill ball handlers like Paul or Harden, he was more average when navigating screens.

Hedo can probably guard 3-4 positions today, and then he’d actually be the pull-up volume scoring threat Ingles would have to guard if you needed him to.

KobesScarf · Post #5 » by **KobesScarf** » Thu Apr 6, 2023 3:22 pm

Hedo in 2023 on the right tean would put up like 24-6-6

Colbinii · Post #6 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:06 pm

Prime Hedo was amazing. He was a 20/5/5 player with 99 TS+. Not a good defender but extremely smart player on both ends.

Ingles is also a special talent. Similar size as Hedo, good ball handler and excellent passer out of the pick&roll and shooter. I like his defense more than Hedo [neither of whom were good defenders] but Hedo's aggressiveness and offensive prowess takes the cake here.

ronnymac2 · Post #7 » by **ronnymac2** » Fri Apr 7, 2023 4:54 am

Turkeyglu when he was on the sauce in Orlando from 2008 onward is definitely better than Ingles. Even without the later failed drug test, appearance + random increase in performance was always shady. NBA at the time didn't even test blood levels, which is preposterous.

I'll take Hedo because I support PED use in the NBA. Ingles passing my eye test as clean makes me question whether he really wants to win.

Post #8 » by **Texas Chuck** » Fri Apr 7, 2023 4:02 pm

I mean if you need a best player, its Hedo, but you also know your ceiling is really capped. If you need a 2nd best player, you still take Hedo. Beyond that, I'm not sure this isn't Ingles. He would cost you 1/3 as much in today's salary world which is significant and his game complements any stars you already have in place.

IdolW0rm · Post #9 » by **IdolW0rm** » Fri Apr 7, 2023 4:33 pm

Turk. At his peak, quite possibly the best player of his draft class aswell (2000 was extremely weak).
He's one of those guys who I think would fit very well in today's NBA.

TroubleS0me · Post #10 » by **TroubleS0me** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 1:41 am

ronnymac2 wrote:Turkeyglu when he was on the sauce in Orlando from 2008 onward is definitely better than Ingles. Even without the later failed drug test, appearance + random increase in performance was always shady. NBA at the time didn't even test blood levels, which is preposterous.

I'll take Hedo because I support PED use in the NBA. Ingles passing my eye test as clean makes me question whether he really wants to win.

wait what?

GrindCityHustle · Post #11 » by **GrindCityHustle** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 3:25 am

Toronto fans know Turk. Ask them how they feel about him.

Engles is like more because no ego and can play around any scorer and help team.