Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s?

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Who is better to date and who do you expect going forward?

Tatum to Date
2
3%
Jokic to Date
6
10%
Embiid to Date
0
No votes
Luka to Date
3
5%
Giannis to Date
24
40%
Tatum Going Forward
2
3%
Jokic Going Forward
12
20%
Embiid Going Forward
0
No votes
Luka Going Forward
3
5%
Giannis Going Forward
8
13%
 
Total votes: 60

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Re: Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s? 

Post#41 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:03 pm

kendogg wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
kendogg wrote:
That's actually not true. Your logic is flawed. Some people can handle the pressure of the crowd and be unaffected by it because they have icewater in their veins. Others are more affected by the crowd. So when there is no crowd, the difference between the two is not the same for everyone. Some have a great leap in performance and others are more or less the same. That's the entire point of why the bubble season doesn't really count when judging the best playoff performer of the decade. It still counts as a season in the history books, but you can't compare it to the other seasons of the decade if you are trying to rank playoff performance. It's comparing apples to oranges. It's like comparing stats from today to 1960. totally different game.


I think you need to look up how logic works. And yes, what homecourtloss said is true.

It is irrelevant if some people are unaffected by crowds than others (if we are using "logic", then this would mean that games with crowds are ALSO unfair).

Everyone played under the same stakes that were agreed upon. The stakes were not manufactured to make some teams better than others. That is already end of discussion.

Your point would be valid if everyone played in front of a crowd except when they would play a certain team like the Heat. That did not happen. Your point is as ridiculous as saying that a fight between two boxers that ended in a knockout did not count because there was no crowd due to the pandemic (or because they decided to fight in Saudi Arabia instead of Las Vegas).

if anything a controlled environment like the bubble is objectively more fair. It's controlled to be as neutral as possible. It's a sterile environment (literally).


Comparing the 2020 season to the 1960s season in terms of how different the game is is baseless (we can list all the similarities between the 2021 and 2020 rules in basketball and it is much more similar than 2021 and 1961). You haven't explained why it is a "totally" different game at all. Some players getting more nerves in front of crowds doesn't make it a different game unless you just love hyperbole.



If the Bubble season doesn't count then the 3 seasons with a shortened 3 point line shouldn't count. After all that benefits certain players more than others, right? IT TOTALLY changes the game or whatever hyperbole we are using. Unlike the bubble, it's actually an objective change on the rules being played not the venue. If you really think the literal rules of the game affect the game less than the venue then you are ignorant.


you need to learn to read. i didnt say the season didn't count i said you cant directly compare it to the other seasons of the decade. it is very much like the years of the shortened line. you can't directly compare stats of those years to the years after either. its apples to oranges. so trying to assess the best playoff performer of the 2020's by using a bubble run as evidence does not work. it should not be counted because its a season not like the others. it can only be compared to itself.


Y’all keep responding to this hater troll btw, just do it when he says something so stupid that he can’t even respond without looking like a fool, happens often
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Re: Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s? 

Post#42 » by kendogg » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:17 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:Y’all keep responding to this hater troll btw, just do it when he says something so stupid that he can’t even respond without looking like a fool, happens often


You can't make an argument outside of just referencing bbref stats because you've never played or watched the game at a higher than elementary level. You probably still live with your parents and have a unibrow like AD. Have fun never leaving your parents house or ever touching a woman in your life other than your mother. Keep watching anime and looking at bbref certainly those are worthy life accomplishments.
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Re: Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s? 

Post#43 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:37 pm

kendogg wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:Y’all keep responding to this hater troll btw, just do it when he says something so stupid that he can’t even respond without looking like a fool, happens often


You can't make an argument outside of just referencing bbref stats because you've never played or watched the game at a higher than elementary level. You probably still live with your parents and have a unibrow like AD. Have fun never leaving your parents house or ever touching a woman in your life other than your mother. Keep watching anime and looking at bbref certainly those are worthy life accomplishments.



Since I’m pretty sure I’ve talked about watching 90s basketball before, so you are a 30+ year old man on an anonymous Internet forum getting this heated because someone rightfully said ur a hater and baiting people, and you’re throwing out insults that make you look like a middle schooler

You are a pathetic insecure man-child and unfortunately there’s no real comeback I can say that demonstrates that more than the fact that more than your response above (I bet you have a unibrow like AD is crazy btw lol)

It’s either that or you’re an actual middle schooler which wouldn’t be suprising either since you started crying because someone called you a hater

Edit: nah that’s crazy you joined in 2001 you’re basically 40 years old and crying this hard, that’s sad. Hope you don’t have kids rn they’d be ashamed lol
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Re: Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s? 

Post#44 » by No-more-rings » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:54 pm

Wow. This forum is really spiraling out of control now, just lurking and reading threads the past week or two has been painful, but it reinsures my decision to find better ways to spend my time, and I seriously think many of you should do the same because i’m not really sure what good this place is bringing to anyone these days.

I do want to mention this since there doesn’t seem to be much mention(honestly didn’t read the whole thread), but it’s a shame what’s happened with Kawhi’s health because he could’ve been in the running for this.

His last postseason he put up: 30/8/4 on 68 ts% lol. He was a more resilient scorer than Giannis, and a better defender than Jokic. When he was healthy, I was more impressed with his overall level of play between 2017-2021 in the playoffs than what I watched of Giannis’ prime. Given his age and injury history, it seems fair to say his prime is officially over though.

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