2022-23 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5261 » by rk2023 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:31 pm

AEnigma wrote:Strictly as regular season teams, they are right. Unfortunately, they need a playoff first option. I hold Siakam in high regard, but that cannot be his role.


I would love Scoot to Toronto if that can happen in a change of events from now until Thursday night. While Wembanyama is my clear #1 prospect, I am more gravitated to Scoot’s game as a fan (hoping we can see generational careers from both, that said) and I think he is the best point guard prospect this century - to leave with a hot take.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5262 » by rk2023 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:45 pm

My overall thoughts on the trade:

• Phoenix won it for now. They didn’t give up much. (1) Shamet - whose skillset is replaceable for very cheap / much less than his contract, and (2) Paul - who was likely going to be bought out or rerouted for not much in return anyways. I’m unsure about pick swaps and seconds, so I can’t speak on that too much.

• Phoenix is a better team now, I believe so, due to the nuances I mentioned. While they are losing Paul’s distribution abilities, they now have three >= solid perimeter offensive talents and two of the top 15 players in the league. I don’t think Beal’s (or any of three per-se) volume has to go up, but the two shooting guards efficiencies could go up as a result of playing off of one another. Durant already is no slouch in that regard, as we all know.

• Even with a better shot at contending, trading for Beal doesn’t quite fix any of their flaws on paper. I think Goodwin was an underratedly good pickup as a rotation piece, but I’m unsure how much he will be relied upon. I am curious how Isaiah Todd (also acquired in the deal) looks now that he can get NBA action. Regardless, their rim pressure as a whole, skillset and archetype versatility, defense (especially with Vogel), and table setting / facilitation garner some question marks at minimum.

• Now here’s where it gets fun.. the financials. Phoenix will have ~160M tied into four players with Beal’s trade kicker in - and more $ into the future. I’m not a cap expert or well versed in NBA financials & logistics of roster management, but it seems like they’ll certainly be bottle-necked in rounding out the roster.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5263 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:24 am

rk2023 wrote:My overall thoughts on the trade:

• Phoenix won it for now. They didn’t give up much. (1) Shamet - whose skillset is replaceable for very cheap / much less than his contract, and (2) Paul - who was likely going to be bought out or rerouted for not much in return anyways. I’m unsure about pick swaps and seconds, so I can’t speak on that too much.

• Phoenix is a better team now, I believe so, due to the nuances I mentioned. While they are losing Paul’s distribution abilities, they now have three >= solid perimeter offensive talents and two of the top 15 players in the league. I don’t think Beal’s (or any of three per-se) volume has to go up, but the two shooting guards efficiencies could go up as a result of playing off of one another. Durant already is no slouch in that regard, as we all know.

• Even with a better shot at contending, trading for Beal doesn’t quite fix any of their flaws on paper. I think Goodwin was an underratedly good pickup as a rotation piece, but I’m unsure how much he will be relied upon. I am curious how Isaiah Todd (also acquired in the deal) looks now that he can get NBA action. Regardless, their rim pressure as a whole, skillset and archetype versatility, defense (especially with Vogel), and table setting / facilitation garner some question marks at minimum.

• Now here’s where it gets fun.. the financials. Phoenix will have ~160M tied into four players with Beal’s trade kicker in - and more $ into the future. I’m not a cap expert or well versed in NBA financials & logistics of roster management, but it seems like they’ll certainly be bottle-necked in rounding out the roster.


Wait why would it be a question mark with Vogel? He’s pretty flexible come playoff time
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5264 » by Clyde Frazier » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:13 pm

264 pages! I'm glad these season discussion threads have been such a success on the PC board. New season discussion here: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2299872

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