The Explorer wrote:tsherkin wrote:AEnigma wrote:But did you watch The Last Dance? Have you not seen the “and I took that personally” memes?? What more do you need?????
Indeed. That kind of BS belongs on the GB, not here on the PC Board, though, lol.
I never referenced memes, but how is referencing the last dance and his intangibles and mentality BS? Also, please explain why bringing up intangibles does not belong on this board.
The Explorer wrote:Best in the league.
I take it no one in this thread has seen the last dance and how many times MJ took matchups, other players getting recognition, fake slights, etc personally? He would use anything as fuel to propel him to be the best.
Because this is useless content. No one cares about how many times he "took it personally." What we care about has to do with things relevant to his play on the court, not purely subjective, after-the-fact stuff from how Jordan spun his own career. Yes, we're all aware that he took motivation from things such as you've mentioned. Not of that is relevant to the era-based rules differences, or how he changed his game as he aged, or the actual skills in which he demonstrated proficiency. It's just wasted text, not good debate.
That's why it doesn't really have a place here. If you want to discuss mentality, talk about his approach to the game. Talk about his commitment to getting to his spots. Talk about how he actively avoided three-point shooting. Talk about his dedication to volume scoring. Talk about his approach to defense. Talk about his phenomenal approach to conditioning after his second season. Talk about how his general approach to the game put him at odds with certain other types of players, changing your options for potential talent acquisition.
Stuff from The Last Dance is nice to hear in casual conversation, but like, in no way does it constitute effective debate in the context of discussing his translation to the modern era. It certainly does literally nothing to discuss where he might rank in terms of overall player quality in today's game in his 33/34 year-old 1997 incarnation.