(Lock Please) The LeBron James - 22-23 NBA Playoff Thread - (Part 3)

[homecourtloss]

Suns are comedy, Nurkic is BBQ chicken for the likes of Jokic and Davis

Tensions with Ayton and animosity / disdain must have been something tangible on Durant and Booker’s ends (maybe at coaching and management levels too). A change of scenery certainly seems promising, but I guess we’ll see if that’s what Ayton needed after all.

All this and the Suns have seen that Ayton isn’t any type of impact defender (low motor, average to poor instincts, below average defensive BBall IQ) and that Nurkic isn’t much of a downgrade if at all (has had some poor years defending the rim, but overall, eh). They’re probably better off with a player who doesn’t think he is better than he really is.

[tsherkin]

Suns are comedy, Nurkic is BBQ chicken for the likes of Jokic and Davis

Tensions with Ayton and animosity / disdain must have been something tangible on Durant and Booker’s ends (maybe at coaching and management levels too). A change of scenery certainly seems promising, but I guess we’ll see if that’s what Ayton needed after all.

All this and the Suns have seen that Ayton isn’t any type of impact defender (low motor, average to poor instincts, below average defensive BBall IQ) and that Nurkic isn’t much of a downgrade if at all (has had some poor years defending the rim, but overall, eh). They’re probably better off with a player who doesn’t think he is better than he really is.

Yeah, Ayton's more of a study in mind vs. body. Great physical tools. Quality offensive skill set, this past postseason notwithstanding. He wants to be worth more than he is and have more of an offensive role, but he isn't a good enough playmaker/facilitator to be a proper primary hub. He's a good play-finisher, but that's not worth the kind of primacy he wants, especially when he doesn't bring it on D.

[rk2023]

Tensions with Ayton and animosity / disdain must have been something tangible on Durant and Booker’s ends (maybe at coaching and management levels too). A change of scenery certainly seems promising, but I guess we’ll see if that’s what Ayton needed after all.

All this and the Suns have seen that Ayton isn’t any type of impact defender (low motor, average to poor instincts, below average defensive BBall IQ) and that Nurkic isn’t much of a downgrade if at all (has had some poor years defending the rim, but overall, eh). They’re probably better off with a player who doesn’t think he is better than he really is.

Yeah, Ayton's more of a study in mind vs. body. Great physical tools. Quality offensive skill set, this past postseason notwithstanding. He wants to be worth more than he is and have more of an offensive role, but he isn't a good enough playmaker/facilitator to be a proper primary hub. He's a good play-finisher, but that's not worth the kind of primacy he wants, especially when he doesn't bring it on D.

I like the Portland setting for Ayton. Won’t believe in his defense until I see it, but I think his vertical spacing and play-finishing threat will do some good in unlocking Scoot Henderson. I’m not really in the camp where I think getting rid of Ayton is addition through subtraction and getting rid of a grey cloud. Perhaps Nurkic buys in, but I’m very low on how he guards in space and his effectiveness following injuries

[tsherkin]

I like the Portland setting for Ayton. Won’t believe in his defense until I see it, but I think his vertical spacing and play-finishing threat will do some good in unlocking Scoot Henderson. I’m not really in the camp where I think getting rid of Ayton is addition through subtraction and getting rid of a grey cloud. Perhaps Nurkic buys in, but I’m very low on how he guards in space and his effectiveness following injuries

I don't think they've replaced him in the post, but honestly, there's no space for him in the offense as anything more than a low-volume guy with Durant there, so at some point, keeping him didn't make a lot of sense.

[rk2023]

I like the Portland setting for Ayton. Won’t believe in his defense until I see it, but I think his vertical spacing and play-finishing threat will do some good in unlocking Scoot Henderson. I’m not really in the camp where I think getting rid of Ayton is addition through subtraction and getting rid of a grey cloud. Perhaps Nurkic buys in, but I’m very low on how he guards in space and his effectiveness following injuries

I don't think they've replaced him in the post, but honestly, there's no space for him in the offense as anything more than a low-volume guy with Durant there, so at some point, keeping him didn't make a lot of sense.

While that’s true, I’m not high on the return yielded (though a fair share of that could be attributed to how Ayton is regarded as an asset).

[tsherkin]

I like the Portland setting for Ayton. Won’t believe in his defense until I see it, but I think his vertical spacing and play-finishing threat will do some good in unlocking Scoot Henderson. I’m not really in the camp where I think getting rid of Ayton is addition through subtraction and getting rid of a grey cloud. Perhaps Nurkic buys in, but I’m very low on how he guards in space and his effectiveness following injuries

I don't think they've replaced him in the post, but honestly, there's no space for him in the offense as anything more than a low-volume guy with Durant there, so at some point, keeping him didn't make a lot of sense.

While that’s true, I’m not high on the return yielded (though a fair share of that could be attributed to how Ayton is regarded as an asset).

I don't disagree.

[McBubbles]

I hope this isn't entirely reflective of LeBron's strength and training

Watch on YouTube

I can garuntee you whoever is training lebron is far higher on the totem pole than PhD dude with a YouTube channel lol

Looking at him it looks like he’s more bodybuilding and has been consulted on for like, nutrition by athletes more than anything else

If it was PJF that said something it would matter a lot more lol

I doubt this. A lot of professional athletes have absolutely **** trainers and training routines that they very much succeed in spite of. Hell one of my favourite boxers almost died of kidney failure recently because of a diet his trainer put him on.

A lot of these people only got their position by being at the right place at the right time or by brown nosing the right people. There's no super extra special Sports Science / Physiological principles that makes you more qualified to train NBA players or high level athletes lol.

[McBubbles]

I hope this isn't entirely reflective of LeBron's strength and training

Watch on YouTube

Always remember. Those who can't, teach.

I think this is a half truth. It's not those that can't do teach. That's just a strange and disrespectful anti-teacher sentiment.

Those that can't do as well, tend to teach better.

The more naturally talented you are the less you have to work on the basics and fundamentals, and the less you have to work on them, the worse you are at teaching them. The reverse is true for the less naturally talented, which is why Lonzo Ball would probably be a better shooting coach than Steph Curry.

[D.Brasco]

I hope this isn't entirely reflective of LeBron's strength and training

Watch on YouTube

I can garuntee you whoever is training lebron is far higher on the totem pole than PhD dude with a YouTube channel lol

Looking at him it looks like he’s more bodybuilding and has been consulted on for like, nutrition by athletes more than anything else

If it was PJF that said something it would matter a lot more lol

I doubt this. A lot of professional athletes have absolutely **** trainers, of whom only got their position by being at the right place at the right time or by brown nosing the right people. There's no super extra special Sports Science / Physiological principles that makes you more qualified to train NBA players lol.

I suspect that's the case more so in the NBA than football as strength and conditioning as a focus started decades late in comparison. Until the 90s I think NBA players were still being advised to avoid lifting weights as they thought it would actually be a negative.

[MyUniBroDavis]

I can garuntee you whoever is training lebron is far higher on the totem pole than PhD dude with a YouTube channel lol

Looking at him it looks like he’s more bodybuilding and has been consulted on for like, nutrition by athletes more than anything else

If it was PJF that said something it would matter a lot more lol

I doubt this. A lot of professional athletes have absolutely **** trainers, of whom only got their position by being at the right place at the right time or by brown nosing the right people. There's no super extra special Sports Science / Physiological principles that makes you more qualified to train NBA players lol.

I suspect that's the case more so in the NBA than football as strength and conditioning as a focus started decades late in comparison. Until the 90s I think NBA players were still being advised to avoid lifting weights as they thought it would actually be a negative.

Yeah Lebrons personal trainer absolutely has more credentials than this dude lmao come on guys this is silly

It’s fair to say there are some bad trainers out there although that’s more focused on skill workout stuff, but comparing a dude on YouTube whose credentials end at doing some nutrition stuff for the Olympics or something vs the personal trainer of the dude with the most athletic longevity in basketball history is a complete joke lol

Sure, you could say there are bad trainers out there, but comparing lebrons personal trainer to a YouTuber is **** crazy lol.


Sure there is a right place right time element, but brons personal trainer of 20 years, personal trainer of the dude with the most athletic longevity we’ve seen in this sport by far, who brons basically credited his longevity for, is a million times higher on the totem pole than this guy whose experience capsmout at being a nutrition consultant at the US Olympics for a bit and it’s really dumb to think otherwise lol


Like there’s no way anyone is doubting lebrons off-season routine that’s ridiculous lmfao

[rk2023]

Time for a new season’s thread with media days either in progress or soon?

[PistolPeteJR]

Time for a new season’s thread with media days either in progress or soon?

Was today

[rk2023]

Time for a new season’s thread with media days either in progress or soon?

Was today

Got to see some of it, thanks for the heads up. Was a bit confused regarding timing, as Ham and Pelinka spoke last week

[OhayoKD]

Tensions with Ayton and animosity / disdain must have been something tangible on Durant and Booker’s ends (maybe at coaching and management levels too). A change of scenery certainly seems promising, but I guess we’ll see if that’s what Ayton needed after all.

All this and the Suns have seen that Ayton isn’t any type of impact defender (low motor, average to poor instincts, below average defensive BBall IQ) and that Nurkic isn’t much of a downgrade if at all (has had some poor years defending the rim, but overall, eh). They’re probably better off with a player who doesn’t think he is better than he really is.

Yeah, Ayton's more of a study in mind vs. body. Great physical tools. Quality offensive skill set, this past postseason notwithstanding. He wants to be worth more than he is and have more of an offensive role, but he isn't a good enough playmaker/facilitator to be a proper primary hub. He's a good play-finisher, but that's not worth the kind of primacy he wants, especially when he doesn't bring it on D.

!remind me next April

[tsherkin]

All this and the Suns have seen that Ayton isn’t any type of impact defender (low motor, average to poor instincts, below average defensive BBall IQ) and that Nurkic isn’t much of a downgrade if at all (has had some poor years defending the rim, but overall, eh). They’re probably better off with a player who doesn’t think he is better than he really is.

Yeah, Ayton's more of a study in mind vs. body. Great physical tools. Quality offensive skill set, this past postseason notwithstanding. He wants to be worth more than he is and have more of an offensive role, but he isn't a good enough playmaker/facilitator to be a proper primary hub. He's a good play-finisher, but that's not worth the kind of primacy he wants, especially when he doesn't bring it on D.

!remind me next April

Remind you of what?

[TroubleS0me]

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