Rick Barry vs Vince Carter

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22%
 
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Re: Rick Barry vs Vince Carter 

Post#21 » by penbeast0 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:46 am

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Warspite wrote:Anyone with the discipline/skill Barry had at FTs is going to be able to translate that into a 3pt shot. After all the 3pt shot is just a longer FTA.

Not with Rick Barry's free throw form it isn't.


Now THAT I'd love to see; Rick shooting 3 pointers underhand (and telling everyone else they would make more if they just did it too).
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Re: Rick Barry vs Vince Carter 

Post#22 » by prolific passer » Sun Oct 15, 2023 1:11 pm

penbeast0 wrote:
Owly wrote:
Warspite wrote:Anyone with the discipline/skill Barry had at FTs is going to be able to translate that into a 3pt shot. After all the 3pt shot is just a longer FTA.

Not with Rick Barry's free throw form it isn't.


Now THAT I'd love to see; Rick shooting 3 pointers underhand (and telling everyone else they would make more if they just did it too).

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Re: Rick Barry vs Vince Carter 

Post#23 » by Warspite » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:13 am

Owly wrote:
Warspite wrote:Anyone with the discipline/skill Barry had at FTs is going to be able to translate that into a 3pt shot. After all the 3pt shot is just a longer FTA.

Not with Rick Barry's free throw form it isn't.


Are you saying shooting underhanded takes very little practice or skill? The reality is that shooting a ft underhanded and making it 90% of the time is about as hard as shooting a 3pt shot overhanded at 35%. If you have the hand eye coordination, time and desire to learn 1 you can learn the other.

This is Rick Barry we are talking about. His ego won't allow him to be a bad shooter. I talked to Rick Barry once in a room of HoFers and that guy believed in his heart that he was the best player in the room and showed no deference to anyone until DrJ, Russell and MJ entered the room.
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Re: Rick Barry vs Vince Carter 

Post#24 » by Owly » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:02 pm

Warspite wrote:
Owly wrote:
Warspite wrote:Anyone with the discipline/skill Barry had at FTs is going to be able to translate that into a 3pt shot. After all the 3pt shot is just a longer FTA.

Not with Rick Barry's free throw form it isn't.


Are you saying shooting underhanded takes very little practice or skill?

No.

Everyone else read it right.

I'm saying Barry's FT form is not, contrary to your assertion, an in game 3 point shot.

It's a response to the bolded, with the former sentence left in just to reiterate the context that the speaker is themselves explicitly talking about Rick Barry. I have to be talking about the second sentence. "Not with Rick's free throw for it isn't" doesn't make sense as a response to the former sentence, what would the "it" be?


Now you go on to say if he'll work on one he'll work on the other, there's some overlap in underlying skills. Okay, perhaps. But the foundation in the original post that this is "just" the same skill but longer distance, which is to a fair extent true with a reasonably conventional form, which is undermined in this instance if Barry isn't shooting his 3s from around his hip.

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