All Primes: 2013 Spurs vs 2004 Lakers

Moderators: Clyde Frazier, Doctor MJ, trex_8063, penbeast0, PaulieWal

Who wins

All Prime 2013 Spurs
9
69%
All Prime 2004 Lakers
4
31%
 
Total votes: 13

rand
Analyst
Posts: 3,028
And1: 3,946
Joined: Jun 28, 2013

All Primes: 2013 Spurs vs 2004 Lakers 

Post#1 » by rand » Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:00 pm

Who wins a best of 7 with everyone in their prime and healthy. 2004 refs/rules/coaching.

2013 Spurs
Tony Parker / Patty Mills
Manu Ginobili / Danny Green
Tracy McGrady / Stephen Jackson
Kawhi Leonard / Boris Diaw
Tim Duncan / Tiago Splitter

Coach: Gregg Popovich

2004 Lakers
Gary Payton / Derek Fisher
Kobe Bryant / Byron Russell
Rick Fox / Devean George
Karl Malone / Luke Walton
Shaquille O'Neal / Horace Grant

Coach: Phil Jackson
User avatar
Rapcity_11
RealGM
Posts: 24,803
And1: 9,694
Joined: Jul 26, 2006
     

Re: All Primes: 2013 Spurs vs 2004 Lakers 

Post#2 » by Rapcity_11 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:47 am

Can I bench Parker for Danny Green? If so, that Spurs team crushes it.
DirtyDez
Suns Forum College Scout
Posts: 17,161
And1: 6,894
Joined: Jun 25, 2009
Location: the Arizona desert

Re: All Primes: 2013 Spurs vs 2004 Lakers 

Post#3 » by DirtyDez » Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:35 am

McGrady seems like cheating since he wasn’t in the playoff rotation but with him this is clearly the Spurs. Without him it still might be.

Peak Payton/Malone around Shaq/Kobe isn’t a waste of their talents but the Spurs parts fit better and get the most out of each other.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
Silvie Lysandra
Starter
Posts: 2,181
And1: 452
Joined: May 22, 2007
   

Re: All Primes: 2013 Spurs vs 2004 Lakers 

Post#4 » by Silvie Lysandra » Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:50 pm

Honestly, Lakers in 6-7. As great as Kawhi is, he's 6'7 (and while he's not skinny for the modern game, he's absolutely not a 2004 power forward) playing PF in a 2004 NBA metagame against prime Shaq and prime Malone. They're going to have to play Splitter a lot (so less minutes for Manu/Parker/McGrady) just to have the size to compete, and even then they are going to give up a LOT of offensive boards. Obviously, Duncan can match even peak Shaq, but that takes energy, and because they're coaching like it's 2004, the strategies that could allow the Spurs to exploit the Lakers aren't really in play. Having a 6'7 PF is just too much of a liability in this kind of metagame.

With that said, Duncan is the best player in the series, though peak Shaq/Kobe are a good deal above peak Kawhi/TMac.

Modern or even 2013 (we already started to see the modern NBA metagame in 2013, less size, more switchability, with Jackson, Leonard and Diaw being perfect fits) ruleset and I'd go Spurs in 5.

Return to Player Comparisons