In Today's Game Who You Pick #6 Allen Iverson Vs Reggie Miller

[MoreyWins]

Iverson is the kind of player that would translate horribly in todays game

Why is that? The game should come easier to him than what it was in his prime.

Also are we comparing Iverson as a first option and Miller as a second/third option? Essentially having a Westbrook vs Klay debate.

[1993Playoffs]

Throwing a curve ball , I think AI was a better basketball player.

I look at Miller as more of a specialist, not a great ball handler, defender etc

[MoreyWins]

This is a topic I'd love for more people to explore, especially looking at how lopsided this poll is. You'd think Iverson would be a bum and Miller would be an All-NBA player if they played today.

[penbeast0]

2017 Isaiah Thomas was an efficient scorer relative to the league witha .625ts% and a TS Add of over 250.

Iverson wasn't but was given primacy as if he was. His career best ts% was .567 in 08 with a TS Add of just over 100. His career ts% was a rather anemic .518 (only .489 in the playoffs!) with a career negative TS Add of just worse than -425.

Maybe if he'd focused on playmaking, or efficiency, or defense, or any of the other things that he could have done very well with his great athleticism rather than on seeing how many points he could score, he would have been a better player though certainly much less celebrated.

Oh, and "not as good as Reggie Miller" is not the same as "a bum." Not as good as Jordan Poole is a bum despite the fact that Poole takes more shots than the average player and so can have some big scoring nights when he gets hot.

[SlimShady83]

I tend to stay away from off court drama crap as lot of players have them as long as they do their duty on court

[SlimShady83]

This is a topic I'd love for more people to explore, especially looking at how lopsided this poll is. You'd think Iverson would be a bum and Miller would be an All-NBA player if they played today.

IKR kind of sad, but It's the way the game Is played today sadly

[SlimShady83]

Throwing a curve ball , I think AI was a better basketball player.

I look at Miller as more of a specialist, not a great ball handler, defender etc

But In regards to today's game who're you picking? That's the topic

Peace.

[MoreyWins]

2017 Isaiah Thomas was an efficient scorer relative to the league witha .625ts% and a TS Add of over 250.

Iverson wasn't but was given primacy as if he was. His career best ts% was .567 in 08 with a TS Add of just over 100. His career ts% was a rather anemic .518 (only .489 in the playoffs!) with a career negative TS Add of just worse than -425.

Maybe if he'd focused on playmaking, or efficiency, or defense, or any of the other things that he could have done very well with his great athleticism rather than on seeing how many points he could score, he would have been a better player though certainly much less celebrated.

Oh, and "not as good as Reggie Miller" is not the same as "a bum." Not as good as Jordan Poole is a bum despite the fact that Poole takes more shots than the average player and so can have some big scoring nights when he gets hot.

I have no qualm if TS and rTS is your go-to for comparing players from different eras, but it cannot be the end all be all. There's context behind the roles players had as offensive engines, their supporting cast, the geometry of the floor, the quality of defense being played and the tendencies of where/how players scored in their eras.

[penbeast0]

It's certainly not the only criteria but when you are looking at players who are primarily scorers for 90% of their value over replacement, it's far more of a key than merely looking at points per game. I don't think Reggie was playing inferior defenses and he certainly had more value in terms of spacing the floor than Iverson as well. Iverson's playmaking is his main advantage over Reggie other than sheer volume and that volume at numbers below (well below for playoffs) league average for a guy that doesn't space the floor greatly discounts any advantage from his extremely high usage. Add to that intangibles ("practice" for example) and account for both minutes (where Iverson was quite high) but also injuries (where he missed more games), stir to taste and serve.

[1993Playoffs]

Throwing a curve ball , I think AI was a better basketball player.

I look at Miller as more of a specialist, not a great ball handler, defender etc

But In regards to today's game who're you picking? That's the topic

Peace.

In today’s game I’d probably go with Miller. Id rather have him as As a 2nd option his shooting is just more valuable