lessthanjake wrote:OhayoKD wrote:lessthanjake wrote:It is just silly to basically object to a hypothetical about a player being in a different era by saying that if they lived in a different era it’d activate a butterfly effect such that they wouldn’t even play basketball.
If you want to discuss basketball, then you can simply take the actual Jordan and avoid the butterfly scenario. If you wish to make a different MJ and assume he becomes a strong 3-point shooter, you can just acknowledge you are making a bunch of assumptions to create a better MJ. But what doesn't make sense is making all those assumptions and presenting the end product as a likely outcome. And it certainly doesn't make sense to frame the rejection of those assumptions as "unfair". Unless, of course, your objective here is mythology.
I’m actually not really “creat[ing] a better MJ” or, as you characterized it in a response to a different poster, assuming Jordan “gets all the upside of being born later without any of the potential risks.” If you’d read my posts, you’d see that I specifically said that MJ in this era would likely also be less good at skills that are less important in this era/quote]
That is exactly what you did:
Also, the talk about fetuses is just totally strange and off the rails. It’s basically just a very bizarre attempt to avoid actually discussing things. It is just silly to basically object to a hypothetical about a player being in a different era by saying that if they lived in a different era it’d activate a butterfly effect such that they wouldn’t even play basketball
You want to assume optimal everything, instead of just using a scenario with less variables, and then say the optimal everything scenario is what is "likely" or "fair".
[/quote]If you want to insist on talking about what Jordan would do with no honing of his skill set to better fit this era
Strawman.
Fitting for someone who treats imaginary players the same as real ones