cumulative value:
1) Tim Duncan
2) Kobe Bryant
3) Kevin Garnett
4) Shaquille O'Neal
5) Dirk Nowitzki
6) LeBron James
7) Steve Nash
8) Dwyane Wade
9) Jason Kidd
10) Paul Pierce
at their peaks:
1) '09 LeBron
2) '00 Shaq
3) '04 KG
4) '03 Duncan
5) '08 Kobe
6) '09 Wade
7) '07 Nash
8) '08 CP3
9) '09 Dirk
10) '03 TMac
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Off vibes, it's
TD
Kobe
Shaq
KG
Lebron
Dirk
AI
Nash
Wade
TMac
HM Webber, Yao, Manu, Melo, Kidd, Dwight, Vince, Pierce, Baron Davis, and KD
TD
Kobe
Shaq
KG
Lebron
Dirk
AI
Nash
Wade
TMac
HM Webber, Yao, Manu, Melo, Kidd, Dwight, Vince, Pierce, Baron Davis, and KD
Bullets -> Wizards
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durantbird wrote:Possible list ranking players according to their cumulative value in the 2000s decade alone, 99-00 season to 08-09:
1. Tim Duncan
2. Shaquille O'Neal
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Steve Nash
7. LeBron James
8. Dwyane Wade
9. Jason Kidd
10. Manu Ginobili
11. Paul Pierce
12. Chauncey Billups
13. Tracy McGrady
14. Ray Allen
15. Allen Iverson
16. Tony Parker
17. Ben Wallace
18. Chris Webber
19. Vince Carter
20. Chris Paul
I might off with some of those guys, please do correct. Didn't include Dwight, Carmelo, Bosh, Amar'e, Marion, Yao, Peja, Brand, Pau, Jermaine.
What's your list?
I don't have an ordered list for the decade only. Off the cuff, yours appears to pass the smell-test.
I agree Duncan is the clear-cut #1: arguably not the highest peak in the group ['00 Shaq], but not far behind at all. Basically the entire 10-year span is part of his prime, too......which can't really be said for anyone else (except perhaps Paul Pierce and maybe Ray Allen, who are no where near him as players). Guys like Dirk, Kobe, Nash, and Garnett all have great longevity, but still probably at least ONE year that can't really be called their prime in this sample ['09 feels questionable/doubtful for Garnett, imo, and '00 questionable for Kobe]; Duncan is almost a stand-alone there.
I might bump Shaq down a place [or two??] simply because he's shedding value rapidly after '06 (whereas guys like Garnett, Kobe, and Dirk are all going pretty strong through the end of the decade). Very real chance I'd put Garnett and/or Kobe ahead of Shaq, if looking at ONLY this decade.
I haven't looked, but I suspect I'd be higher on Ray Allen, too. I think it's underappreciated how good he was near his peak, and looking at the offenses he clearly anchored in the early 00's; that '01 squad was a whisker away from being in the Finals, with Ray Ray as the clear best player (and he was better than Iverson that year, imo; and I say that as someone who is constantly defending Iverson on this forum).
McGrady is not yet in his prime in '00, and has fallen OUT of it by '08; plus he misses significant time in '06 and '09.......I might have Allen above him. I suspect I'd have him ahead of Manu and Parker, too (again: if ONLY looking at this decade); so much of their career value came later, imo.
At any rate, this isn't far off of what I'd have.
Oh, and I'd probably have Shawn Marion in there somewhere (likely pushing Chris Webber out).
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1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. KG
4. Shaq
5. Dirk
6. Lebron
7. Nash
8. Wade
9. Kidd
10.Pierce/Manu
2. Kobe
3. KG
4. Shaq
5. Dirk
6. Lebron
7. Nash
8. Wade
9. Kidd
10.Pierce/Manu