RealGM 2025 Greatest Peaks Project Discussion Thread

[tsherkin]

I don’t think MJ not being first is silly. I think MJ losing so comfortably to LeBron and Kareem with many people not even having MJ on their ballots is silly

That's your business, I guess, but even that is not really something valid as a criticism of others. Criteria aren't always the same, there are a BUNCH of guys with statistical arguments against MJ's peak, there are some much more potent defenders in the mix, etc, etc. The idea that he is infallibly top-3 isn't really a valid stance (even if selecting him there remains a valid and defensible choice, of course).

[KembaWalker]

Don’t know how it’s possible but Jordan somehow became underrated on this board

I don't think he's underrated, I think opinions differ decades after he retired. Which is normal. Things have changed, in ways which are similar to what happened for the guys who played in the 60s and 70s, just the same. There's no sense holding up a player as EXALTED when there are tangible reasons to alter one's opinion... to one degree or another.

The minute you introduce the idea that an opinion cannot ever be challenged, you abandon quality of discourse and start talking about faith instead of reason.

I don’t think MJ not being first is silly. I think MJ losing so comfortably to LeBron and Kareem with many people not even having MJ on their ballots is silly

unfortunately, elections often arent won by the best candidates, but the ones that recruit the most voters to the poll

[AEnigma]

I don't think he's underrated, I think opinions differ decades after he retired. Which is normal. Things have changed, in ways which are similar to what happened for the guys who played in the 60s and 70s, just the same. There's no sense holding up a player as EXALTED when there are tangible reasons to alter one's opinion... to one degree or another.

The minute you introduce the idea that an opinion cannot ever be challenged, you abandon quality of discourse and start talking about faith instead of reason.

I don’t think MJ not being first is silly. I think MJ losing so comfortably to LeBron and Kareem with many people not even having MJ on their ballots is silly

unfortunately, elections often arent won by the best candidates, but the ones that recruit the most voters to the poll

Plato always knew.

[KembaWalker]

I don’t think MJ not being first is silly. I think MJ losing so comfortably to LeBron and Kareem with many people not even having MJ on their ballots is silly

unfortunately, elections often arent won by the best candidates, but the ones that recruit the most voters to the poll

Plato always knew.

yikes