Magic and Bird Plus Minus Numbers

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Re: Magic and Bird Plus Minus Numbers 

Post#121 » by Djoker » Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:19 pm

^Great stuff Draymond!

I updated the Bird numbers for the 1986 Finals.

1986 Finals vs. Rockets

Bird ON: 112.9 ORtg, 103.0 DRtg, +10.0 Net
Bird OFF: 96.7 ORtg, 141.1 DRtg, -44.4 Net
Bird ON-OFF: +16.2 ORtg, -38.1 DRtg, +54.3 Net

Having watched a few games from this series a while back, I definitely came away with the impression that Bird was the best player on the court. So your breakdown of what happened seems accurate to me. In terms of Bird's defense, I think his positioning was amazing. As you said, he lacked in verticality which is a valid concern but his very presence often deterred drives, drew charges, led to confusion/turnovers... And he's one of those guys who would usually be in the right place at the right time.

I also await your Hakeem plus minus data. :D From the very limited samples I've seen (pretty much just Finals games), Hakeem's plus minus doesn't look too inspiring but that's just a very small sample. Also if there are any games you can't get a hold of, let me know and I may be able to help.

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