Yes, I think we know more now about these players now than their contemporaries did at the time
Yes this is the second time you have said this without any substance whatsoever.
That doesn't invalidate these teams, but it does mean that they don't mean more than a reasonably well sourced ranking produced by a person today.
No? Well then show this - tell us now who were the best defenders 50 years ago, tell us how those head coaches got it wrong because you know more now than they did back then.
I'm not sure coaches took this superfluous vote that the NBA/media nagged them about doing all year very seriously
Oh we get it. NBA head coaches back then did not take their votes seriously, but it is you now that does. Fine. Tell us now who the best defenders were back then. Start at 1973-74 when Jabbar was first named all-defensive 1st team, tell us who should have been named and who the coaches named that weren't serious votes.
we don't have any explanation/argument for any of these votes
They were chosen to be voters because of their expertise in coaching, game planning, film watching, being experts in their field. You seem to think you know more now than they did back then as to who the best defensive players were. Fine. Show it.
For all we know some coaches just picked the guys they liked the most on other teams.
Fine. Then you tell us now who the best defensive players were back then.
Sometimes I think you are just being contrarian for the sake of it on here.
Why - because I am calling out a ridiculous statement you made? You didn't conjecture, you made a statement as if it was fact:
It's also harder to have defensive impact while being a volume scorer on the other end
Trying to infer Jabbar couldn't be an all-time great defender because he was a great scorer. I simply mentioned 15 other players that clearly show - like Jabbar - that this is not true.
How is that "just being contarian"? Because your statement was wrong?
what I said is its harder to do that and maintain it over many years
Again that's 15 players off the top of my head showing this is false.
A few guys managed to do it but then again there are also guys who more or less specialized on defense and who are thought of as top 10 defenders of all time.
Just a few? And who are these other players?
A lot of the guys you mentioned weren't even volume scorers or only were for a few years.
Is that a fact. Which players?
Also, a lot of them didn't keep up their defense throughout their careers
Which players?
I can't discuss this with you anymore because you just making terrible arguments
Don't make statements as if factual that are easily falsified.
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