Was Dirk ever the best PF in the leauge?

schaffy · Post #41 » by **schaffy** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:47 am

Mavs41 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dirk is the better offensive player, so i don't understand your "all dirk does better". It's a big part of the game.
Another thing Dirk has on KG is team success. Again it is absolutely debatable and it's ok if you think KG > Dirk but it's close.

So is Defense. And the margin between KG and Dirk on defense is much greater than the difference between the two on offense.

Albanian Damien · Post #42 » by **Albanian Damien** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:37 am

etopn23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dirk is easily the superior offensive player of the 3. It isn't even worth a discussion. Wow.

Dirk scores more. If that is your sole definition of offense than yes he is a superior offensive player. However KG and TD facilitate an offense better than Dirk.

Rand10 · Post #43 » by **Rand10** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:45 am

Albanian Damien wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dirk scores more. If that is your sole definition of offense than yes he is a superior offensive player. However KG and TD facilitate an offense better than Dirk.

Not anymore. Dirk has significantly improved that area of his game.

kooldude · Post #44 » by **kooldude** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:08 am

mavfan33 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Not anymore. Dirk has significantly improved that area of his game.

his blocks and steals are down, does that mean his help defender is less?

Rand10 · Post #45 » by **Rand10** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:15 am

kooldude wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

his blocks and steals are down, does that mean his help defender is less?

I was referring to facilitating an offense. And I don't think his steals being 0.3 under and blocks equal to his career average is a very big deal.

Mavs41 · Post #46 » by **Mavs41** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:19 pm

Albanian Damien wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dirk scores more. If that is your sole definition of offense than yes he is a superior offensive player. However KG and TD facilitate an offense better than Dirk.

No, Dirk is the better Offensive Player and he also better facilitator of an offense (at least when it comes to KG). The reason for that are the match up problems he creates.

kooldude · Post #47 » by **kooldude** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:34 pm

mavfan33 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I was referring to facilitating an offense. And I don't think his steals being 0.3 under and blocks equal to his career average is a very big deal.

but it's much lower than his career highs a few years ago.

UDRIH14 · Post #48 » by **UDRIH14** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:51 pm

duncan

garnett/dirk/ another feller i feel being left out when he was good jermain oneal is debateable

sec-106 · Post #49 » by **sec-106** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:31 pm

He's never even been the best PF in Texas.

Rand10 · Post #50 » by **Rand10** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:19 am

kooldude wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

but it's much lower than his career highs a few years ago.

Because we've got Dampier and Diop protecting the rim now.